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I'm 41 and I have still not managed to really confront the question of having children despite my wife being in her late 30s. > I'm sure lots of guys I've seen

I'm 41 and I have still not managed to really confront the question of having children despite my wife being in her late 30s. > I'm sure lots of guys I've seen refuse to make babies did so because they knew it was the end of a side of them. Well, yeah...that sounds plausible. So how do they solve this?

appstorelottery 8y ago
What solved it for me was my partner. She wanted a kid (I was 41, she was 36), I just kind of went with it - screaming inside - but when she was born everything changed. That was a few years ago now and I'm still coming to terms with it. Just let it happen. I never thought I'd have kids, but the right woman will overrule you. It's a much better experience than I thought, and sure, there are days when I think - this wasn't a great idea - but once your child is born, you're programmed to care for it - and it's nowhere as bad as I thought it would be.
- 232812a6027b 8y ago
  Thanks for the thoughtful words!
- astura 8y ago
  > once your child is born, you're programmed to care for it Someone should let my parents know that.
  - jwhitlark 8y ago
    Agreed. Bertram Russell had an unhappy childhood and was divorced three times, (married four). This thread seems to be stretched beyond the original premise.
  - appstorelottery 8y ago
    Yeah, I know what you mean. For myself, I find it helpful to remember that everyone is doing the best they can do to survive. And this can mean simply trying your best to look after yourself, if you aren't doing that well then you don't have much left over for anyone else.
    - astura 8y ago
      I have no idea what you're trying to say or how it relates at all to my parents being abusive pieces of shit. You're simply dead wrong that every person is somehow "programmed" to care for their offspring; don't go around spreading dangerous falsehoods.
- bpyne 8y ago
  Your experience echoes mine almost exactly. Now I can't imagine a life without my daughter. Her interests got me out of my comfort zone - I'm president of a girls basketball league - and develop aspects of myself that I may not have. I stepped into the position because she and her friends love the league and nobody else wanted to do it.
- agumonkey 8y ago
  I've seen that repeatedly. Women want babies way quicker it seems. I feel like lots of guys want to keep the couple relationship for a lot longer because it's fulfilling as is and they don't want to change the dynamics. Also I suspect lots of guys want to be their SO full source of happiness. btw what did you think would be bad having babies ?
  - astura 8y ago
    It's been my experience that the man wants the babies NOW and the woman want to wait a few years until she meets career goals, or wait to concentrate on health problems, or just don't feel ready yet. I know several relationships/marriages that broke up because the man was ready for kids and the woman wasn't, yet never the other way around. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/men-want-kids-more-than-women-new-york-magazine-article-affirms-studies/ https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/men-want-kids-more-than-wom... https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/actually-men-have-always-wanted-children-more-than-women/article23681771/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/actually-men-have-al...
tmoravec 8y ago
I'm just trying to be the best husband and dad in the world. Having children is not the end of the world. On the contrary, it's a super challenge that lets a ton of our personality to shine through.
rapind 8y ago
For some reason most parents will tell you it's amazing even if they are miserable. The reality is it could be amazing, or horrible, or anything in between. Your life will change. Your relationship with your SO will change. You may feel significant financial stress. Kids aren't cheap, but this of course will vary with expectations and your SO's expectations. You will have to compromise a lot. I don't regret it by any stretch, but that could just be Stocholms... Ignore advice that's certain one path fits all.

appstorelottery 8y ago

What solved it for me was my partner. She wanted a kid (I was 41, she was 36), I just kind of went with it - screaming inside - but when she was born everything changed. That was a few years ago now and I'm still coming to terms with it. Just let it happen. I never thought I'd have kids, but the right woman will overrule you. It's a much better experience than I thought, and sure, there are days when I think - this wasn't a great idea - but once your child is born, you're programmed to care for it - and it's nowhere as bad as I thought it would be.

232812a6027b 8y ago
Thanks for the thoughtful words!
astura 8y ago
> once your child is born, you're programmed to care for it Someone should let my parents know that.
- jwhitlark 8y ago
  Agreed. Bertram Russell had an unhappy childhood and was divorced three times, (married four). This thread seems to be stretched beyond the original premise.
- appstorelottery 8y ago
  Yeah, I know what you mean. For myself, I find it helpful to remember that everyone is doing the best they can do to survive. And this can mean simply trying your best to look after yourself, if you aren't doing that well then you don't have much left over for anyone else.
  - astura 8y ago
    I have no idea what you're trying to say or how it relates at all to my parents being abusive pieces of shit. You're simply dead wrong that every person is somehow "programmed" to care for their offspring; don't go around spreading dangerous falsehoods.
bpyne 8y ago
Your experience echoes mine almost exactly. Now I can't imagine a life without my daughter. Her interests got me out of my comfort zone - I'm president of a girls basketball league - and develop aspects of myself that I may not have. I stepped into the position because she and her friends love the league and nobody else wanted to do it.
agumonkey 8y ago
I've seen that repeatedly. Women want babies way quicker it seems. I feel like lots of guys want to keep the couple relationship for a lot longer because it's fulfilling as is and they don't want to change the dynamics. Also I suspect lots of guys want to be their SO full source of happiness. btw what did you think would be bad having babies ?
- astura 8y ago
  It's been my experience that the man wants the babies NOW and the woman want to wait a few years until she meets career goals, or wait to concentrate on health problems, or just don't feel ready yet. I know several relationships/marriages that broke up because the man was ready for kids and the woman wasn't, yet never the other way around. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/men-want-kids-more-than-women-new-york-magazine-article-affirms-studies/ https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/men-want-kids-more-than-wom... https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/actually-men-have-always-wanted-children-more-than-women/article23681771/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/actually-men-have-al...

tmoravec 8y ago

I'm just trying to be the best husband and dad in the world. Having children is not the end of the world. On the contrary, it's a super challenge that lets a ton of our personality to shine through.

rapind 8y ago

For some reason most parents will tell you it's amazing even if they are miserable. The reality is it could be amazing, or horrible, or anything in between. Your life will change. Your relationship with your SO will change. You may feel significant financial stress. Kids aren't cheap, but this of course will vary with expectations and your SO's expectations. You will have to compromise a lot. I don't regret it by any stretch, but that could just be Stocholms... Ignore advice that's certain one path fits all.