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I never had Facebook but still got my friends, family and places to go to. As an outsider I find the fuzz around Facebook amazing. So what Facebook does only

by pasta 8y ago

I never had Facebook but still got my friends, family and places to go to. As an outsider I find the fuzz around Facebook amazing. So what Facebook does only care about money. Are they supposed not to? If you don't like Facebook just leave and don't be so dramatic about it.

the_snooze 8y ago
Yes, it really is simple to leave Facebook, their web and app tracking ecosystem, contact list scraping, purchase of information from data brokers, and creation of shadow profiles. Simply "leaving Facebook" isn't as meaningful a choice as you're suggesting it to be.
humanrebar 8y ago
Facebook still tracks non users in photos. There are some benefits to getting especially you close friends and family to quit.
- mrits 8y ago
  What are your thought on resolution advancements in satellite imaging?
ethiclub 8y ago
For devil's advocate testing of this, apply standard addiction/depression comparisons. - "As an outsider I find the fuzz around heroin amazing....If you don't like heroin just leave and don't be so dramatic about it." - "As an outsider I find the fuzz around depression amazing....If you feel depressed just get some exercise and don't be so dramatic about it." - "As an outsider I find the fuzz around sex addiction amazing....If you are addicted just stop having sex and don't be so dramatic about it." The world is becoming more empathetic to addiction and mental strength - And is, in general, transitioning away from 'stiff upper lip' / policing policy towards nurturing / healthcare. It's worth considering 'FOMO' (fear of missing out), social anxieties, desperation to belong in society etc... There are many factors like these (genuine mental patterns that people experience) that give credibility to the current narrative of 'social media is addictive and we should help people'. It therefore seems that one's default stance should be 'I assume there is a genuine problem here that people need help with' rather than 'they must be pathetic, why don't they just quit'.

by pasta 8y ago

the_snooze 8y ago

Yes, it really is simple to leave Facebook, their web and app tracking ecosystem, contact list scraping, purchase of information from data brokers, and creation of shadow profiles. Simply "leaving Facebook" isn't as meaningful a choice as you're suggesting it to be.

humanrebar 8y ago

Facebook still tracks non users in photos. There are some benefits to getting especially you close friends and family to quit.

mrits 8y ago
What are your thought on resolution advancements in satellite imaging?

ethiclub 8y ago

For devil's advocate testing of this, apply standard addiction/depression comparisons. - "As an outsider I find the fuzz around heroin amazing....If you don't like heroin just leave and don't be so dramatic about it." - "As an outsider I find the fuzz around depression amazing....If you feel depressed just get some exercise and don't be so dramatic about it." - "As an outsider I find the fuzz around sex addiction amazing....If you are addicted just stop having sex and don't be so dramatic about it." The world is becoming more empathetic to addiction and mental strength - And is, in general, transitioning away from 'stiff upper lip' / policing policy towards nurturing / healthcare. It's worth considering 'FOMO' (fear of missing out), social anxieties, desperation to belong in society etc... There are many factors like these (genuine mental patterns that people experience) that give credibility to the current narrative of 'social media is addictive and we should help people'. It therefore seems that one's default stance should be 'I assume there is a genuine problem here that people need help with' rather than 'they must be pathetic, why don't they just quit'.