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>Pediatric MPM is an extremely rare disease. To the best of our knowledge, there are less than 300 published cases [1]. The disease appears to be a different en

by treis 8y ago

>Pediatric MPM is an extremely rare disease. To the best of our knowledge, there are less than 300 published cases [1]. The disease appears to be a different entity than its adult counterpart, as it is not associated with asbestos or radiation exposure [1], https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221357661500113X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221357661... So even if there were asbestos in the talc and even if asbestos caused cancer in kids, there's still not thousands of reported mesothelioma cases in kids.

DonHopkins 8y ago
Wow, you out-apologized me! Very classy. I've got some more dirty water I'd love for you to carry. Do you take rubles? PM me.
- treis 8y ago
  I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
  - DonHopkins 8y ago
    Instead of going for low hanging anti-coporate karma, I was just carrying the water for and minimizing the damages of huge faceless corporations, to balance out against the mistaken impression that "The anti-corporate attitude is a natural consequence of the pervasive culture of CEO hero-worship among a great deal of HN commenters." [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18686245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18686245 But your corporate apologetics left me in the dust (so to speak, cough cough). You should contact the Trump Administration -- they're looking for someone who can explain with a straight face why it's actually Mariee Juárez parent's fault that their daughter died in ICE custody. I love what you've done with the double "so even if" technique, casting doubt on not one but TWO inconvenient facts, then finally providing a back-up excuse: "So even if there were asbestos in the talc and even if asbestos caused cancer in kids, ..." -- Conway and Huckabee-Sanders will respect your style. I apologize to J&J and anyone else whose feelings I've hurt, for not doing my research before mistakenly and unfairly blaming thousands of baby deaths on J&J, where it was only a few hundred dead babies (which won't even fill my garage [2]). Fortunately the clouds of carcinogenic dust only killed thousands of the baby's parents. Thanks for pointing out my mistake! [2] https://thoughtcatalog.com/g00/clint-conway/2016/08/50-of-the-funniest-dead-baby-jokes-of-all-time https://thoughtcatalog.com/g00/clint-conway/2016/08/50-of-th...
CydeWeys 8y ago
The thing about many of these environmental factor diseases is that they're long-term. You might get repeatedly exposed to some cancer-causing agent like talcum powder containing asbestos as a baby and then not develop the disease for decades later (e.g. and you die at 50 instead of 80). It's still shaving decades off life expectancy; it's just not killing immediately. That's actually why these are so insidious, because if it were killing immediately then J&J would have had to address it long ago as it would have been obvious. Instead, they've continued doing it for decades, affecting who knows how many people, because the effects are divorced from the cause by time.

by treis 8y ago

DonHopkins 8y ago

Wow, you out-apologized me! Very classy. I've got some more dirty water I'd love for you to carry. Do you take rubles? PM me.

treis 8y ago
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
- DonHopkins 8y ago
  Instead of going for low hanging anti-coporate karma, I was just carrying the water for and minimizing the damages of huge faceless corporations, to balance out against the mistaken impression that "The anti-corporate attitude is a natural consequence of the pervasive culture of CEO hero-worship among a great deal of HN commenters." [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18686245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18686245 But your corporate apologetics left me in the dust (so to speak, cough cough). You should contact the Trump Administration -- they're looking for someone who can explain with a straight face why it's actually Mariee Juárez parent's fault that their daughter died in ICE custody. I love what you've done with the double "so even if" technique, casting doubt on not one but TWO inconvenient facts, then finally providing a back-up excuse: "So even if there were asbestos in the talc and even if asbestos caused cancer in kids, ..." -- Conway and Huckabee-Sanders will respect your style. I apologize to J&J and anyone else whose feelings I've hurt, for not doing my research before mistakenly and unfairly blaming thousands of baby deaths on J&J, where it was only a few hundred dead babies (which won't even fill my garage [2]). Fortunately the clouds of carcinogenic dust only killed thousands of the baby's parents. Thanks for pointing out my mistake! [2] https://thoughtcatalog.com/g00/clint-conway/2016/08/50-of-the-funniest-dead-baby-jokes-of-all-time https://thoughtcatalog.com/g00/clint-conway/2016/08/50-of-th...

CydeWeys 8y ago

The thing about many of these environmental factor diseases is that they're long-term. You might get repeatedly exposed to some cancer-causing agent like talcum powder containing asbestos as a baby and then not develop the disease for decades later (e.g. and you die at 50 instead of 80). It's still shaving decades off life expectancy; it's just not killing immediately. That's actually why these are so insidious, because if it were killing immediately then J&J would have had to address it long ago as it would have been obvious. Instead, they've continued doing it for decades, affecting who knows how many people, because the effects are divorced from the cause by time.