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Does UCLA filter scihub? A better solution to the closed access problem would be to only cite open access articles. Sometimes that would mean not citing the or

by lixtra 8y ago

Does UCLA filter scihub? A better solution to the closed access problem would be to only cite open access articles. Sometimes that would mean not citing the original article but some open access meta article that made the findings publicly accessible. I actually think it’s fair to not cite articles that you cannot reach with reasonable effort. It’s the authors choice to make it inaccessible.

ansible 8y ago
Moreover, it is my understanding that if there's a good paper you want to get, you can often just contact one of the authors and get sent a copy. It is slower and less convenient, but maybe not $10 million a year less convenient...
- new299 8y ago
  People regularly don’t respond to those emails. For older publications it might be hard to even find the email. In the UK, you can order a photocopy of any journal paper via inter library loans. These often come from the British library, which has everything. I’d assume elsewhere similar solutions exist. Spending money on automating that process, and you might put most journals out of business.
  - gerdesj 8y ago
    "In the UK, you can order a photocopy of any journal paper via inter library loans. These often come from the British library, which has everything. I’d assume elsewhere similar solutions exist." I'm sure I saw a device called a scanner somewhere. It seemed to transcend the worlds of paper and electronics. I'm also from the UK and am old enough to remember life before "Brentrance" (newly minted term by me - meaning should be obvious) This issue of publication freedom is way more important or at least comparable, to Brexit in my opinion. I'm not too sure what the perfect knowledgebase would look like but it probably is not the current one. For me it might be something like a curated MediaWiki (the software behind WikiPedia) - for me the killer feature is that an article in a wiki is just text and a few formatting hints. Text is first, formatting and other distractions come second. I studied Civil Engineering in the UK around 1990ish. We had lots of closed off sources and refs (ISIS and others - from memory) - rubbish!
- pfranz 8y ago
  I've heard of many scenarios where the author loses access to their own paper. After moving on from a project it's easy to leave stuff on a school's server or on some hard drive in a closet.
- 4thaccount 8y ago
  I've asked several professors for scientific research and always got a paper back, although it was sometimes very slow.
secabeen 8y ago
> Does UCLA filter scihub? I work at another UC, and we don't filter Scihub in any way.

by lixtra 8y ago

ansible 8y ago

Moreover, it is my understanding that if there's a good paper you want to get, you can often just contact one of the authors and get sent a copy. It is slower and less convenient, but maybe not $10 million a year less convenient...

new299 8y ago
People regularly don’t respond to those emails. For older publications it might be hard to even find the email. In the UK, you can order a photocopy of any journal paper via inter library loans. These often come from the British library, which has everything. I’d assume elsewhere similar solutions exist. Spending money on automating that process, and you might put most journals out of business.
- gerdesj 8y ago
  "In the UK, you can order a photocopy of any journal paper via inter library loans. These often come from the British library, which has everything. I’d assume elsewhere similar solutions exist." I'm sure I saw a device called a scanner somewhere. It seemed to transcend the worlds of paper and electronics. I'm also from the UK and am old enough to remember life before "Brentrance" (newly minted term by me - meaning should be obvious) This issue of publication freedom is way more important or at least comparable, to Brexit in my opinion. I'm not too sure what the perfect knowledgebase would look like but it probably is not the current one. For me it might be something like a curated MediaWiki (the software behind WikiPedia) - for me the killer feature is that an article in a wiki is just text and a few formatting hints. Text is first, formatting and other distractions come second. I studied Civil Engineering in the UK around 1990ish. We had lots of closed off sources and refs (ISIS and others - from memory) - rubbish!
pfranz 8y ago
I've heard of many scenarios where the author loses access to their own paper. After moving on from a project it's easy to leave stuff on a school's server or on some hard drive in a closet.
4thaccount 8y ago
I've asked several professors for scientific research and always got a paper back, although it was sometimes very slow.

secabeen 8y ago

> Does UCLA filter scihub? I work at another UC, and we don't filter Scihub in any way.