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Why do none of the words "plea", "bargain", "six", or "months" appear anywhere in [15] and [16]?

oh_sigh 8y ago
I don't know, but it is reported on elsewhere, for example: https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/01/14/mit-hacking-case-lawyer-says-aaron-swartz-was-offered-plea-deal-of-six-months-behind-bars https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/...
- 1000units 8y ago
  Perhaps it is an artifact of frantic damage control by a guilty party and this information is not so reliable.
  - oh_sigh 8y ago
    What do you mean this information is not so reliable? Just because someone mis-attributed true information on wikipedia has no bearing on the truthiness of the matter. And the information about the rejected plea deal is directly from Aaron's lawyer.
    - 1000units 8y ago
      It's merely claimed that he made such a statement. Where? To whom (there are multiple authors, one of them?) None of this is indicated. Modern journalism is garbage, and you've already demonstrated the public accounting of this case is poor quality. We can speculate why.
      - googlryas 8y ago
        (using a different account because I've apparently posted too much for HN) From the article: > "Swartz’s lead defense attorney, Elliot Peters, said today that both he and Swartz rejected the plea deal offered by the office of US Attorney Carmen Ortiz, and instead were pushing for a trial where federal prosecutors would have been forced to publicly justify their pursuit of Swartz." There are multiple interviews where Elliot Peters makes the same claim. https://www.keker.com/news/news-items/Elliot-Peters-Discusses-Internet-Activist-Aaron-Swartz-Lance-Armstrong-Prosecutorial-Excess- https://www.keker.com/news/news-items/Elliot-Peters-Discusse... http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/nation/la-na-nn-aaron-swartz-father-20130117 http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/nation/la-na-nn-aaro... I really have no idea what you're complaining about, or what you expect. Do you need a recorded video of Elliot Peters saying these things about the plea, and then displaying his drivers license and stating his social security number? The way the reporting was done in my original link is completely standard.
        1000units 8y ago
        Thank you, I now accept this claim, though it really should be on a blockchain.

I don't know, but it is reported on elsewhere, for example: https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/01/14/mit-hacking-case-lawyer-says-aaron-swartz-was-offered-plea-deal-of-six-months-behind-bars https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/...

1000units 8y ago
Perhaps it is an artifact of frantic damage control by a guilty party and this information is not so reliable.
- oh_sigh 8y ago
  What do you mean this information is not so reliable? Just because someone mis-attributed true information on wikipedia has no bearing on the truthiness of the matter. And the information about the rejected plea deal is directly from Aaron's lawyer.
  - 1000units 8y ago
    It's merely claimed that he made such a statement. Where? To whom (there are multiple authors, one of them?) None of this is indicated. Modern journalism is garbage, and you've already demonstrated the public accounting of this case is poor quality. We can speculate why.
    - googlryas 8y ago
      (using a different account because I've apparently posted too much for HN) From the article: > "Swartz’s lead defense attorney, Elliot Peters, said today that both he and Swartz rejected the plea deal offered by the office of US Attorney Carmen Ortiz, and instead were pushing for a trial where federal prosecutors would have been forced to publicly justify their pursuit of Swartz." There are multiple interviews where Elliot Peters makes the same claim. https://www.keker.com/news/news-items/Elliot-Peters-Discusses-Internet-Activist-Aaron-Swartz-Lance-Armstrong-Prosecutorial-Excess- https://www.keker.com/news/news-items/Elliot-Peters-Discusse... http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/nation/la-na-nn-aaron-swartz-father-20130117 http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/nation/la-na-nn-aaro... I really have no idea what you're complaining about, or what you expect. Do you need a recorded video of Elliot Peters saying these things about the plea, and then displaying his drivers license and stating his social security number? The way the reporting was done in my original link is completely standard.
      - 1000units 8y ago
        Thank you, I now accept this claim, though it really should be on a blockchain.