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So rather than debate the content of the article, you go for argumentum ad hominem instead? You should give pg's Hierarchy of Disagreement a look: https://en.w

So rather than debate the content of the article, you go for argumentum ad hominem instead? You should give pg's Hierarchy of Disagreement a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#/media/File:Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement-en.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#/media/File:Graham%...

CydeWeys 8y ago
I'm literally debating the content of the article in the comment you replied to.
- busterarm 8y ago
  You aren't debating their points, you're debating their motives, as does your top post. This is literally textbook ad hominem here.
  - CydeWeys 8y ago
    I can't help but notice the irony that all you're doing here is ad hominem against me, in an even purer form.
    - writepub 8y ago
      Discussion here is not about the author's (supposed) background, or ulterior motive, it's about the merits of the issues specifically discussed in the article. It's best to focus on that
    - jerf 8y ago
      Telling someone they are using ad hominem is a specific relevant criticism, not dismissing you because you are just an intrinsically bad person who has wrongthink. Ad hominem is something specific, not just a catchall for disagreement, despite the popularity of that interpretation.
    - oh_sigh 8y ago
      How exactly does one call out an ad hominem without saying that a person is performing an ad hominem?
- alehul 8y ago
  > I don't know about you, but if one of my coworkers were calling for people like me to get the death penalty for doing something that was legal, I too would feel uncomfortable being around them. The entirety of your root comment and the first paragraph of your comment afterwards seems to be ad hominem, while the above quote is not. I think your argument would be stronger if you had just commented with this sentence; it's a very fair position to have. While I'm empathetic to those who disagree with anything, and I think that we should try and increase the size of the Overton window wherever possible, advocating for the death penalty for an action that would apply to coworkers can absolutely, and understandably, create discomfort. Maybe enough to warrant the removal of that individual.

CydeWeys 8y ago

I'm literally debating the content of the article in the comment you replied to.

busterarm 8y ago
You aren't debating their points, you're debating their motives, as does your top post. This is literally textbook ad hominem here.
- CydeWeys 8y ago
  I can't help but notice the irony that all you're doing here is ad hominem against me, in an even purer form.
  - writepub 8y ago
    Discussion here is not about the author's (supposed) background, or ulterior motive, it's about the merits of the issues specifically discussed in the article. It's best to focus on that
  - jerf 8y ago
    Telling someone they are using ad hominem is a specific relevant criticism, not dismissing you because you are just an intrinsically bad person who has wrongthink. Ad hominem is something specific, not just a catchall for disagreement, despite the popularity of that interpretation.
  - oh_sigh 8y ago
    How exactly does one call out an ad hominem without saying that a person is performing an ad hominem?
alehul 8y ago
> I don't know about you, but if one of my coworkers were calling for people like me to get the death penalty for doing something that was legal, I too would feel uncomfortable being around them. The entirety of your root comment and the first paragraph of your comment afterwards seems to be ad hominem, while the above quote is not. I think your argument would be stronger if you had just commented with this sentence; it's a very fair position to have. While I'm empathetic to those who disagree with anything, and I think that we should try and increase the size of the Overton window wherever possible, advocating for the death penalty for an action that would apply to coworkers can absolutely, and understandably, create discomfort. Maybe enough to warrant the removal of that individual.