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> lol "I'd rather assume other people are incompetent than accept that maybe maintaining tens of thousands of components presents unique challenges that I coul

> lol "I'd rather assume other people are incompetent than accept that maybe maintaining tens of thousands of components presents unique challenges that I could learn from."

hombre_fatal 8y ago
You can click into any web-dev related discussion on HN to find someone trotting out their thinly-veiled assumption of "everyone is incompetent except for me". When I read the title of the submission, I immediately envisioned the typical "I thought we learned CSS belongs in its own file, why are web developers idiots?" comment. Everyone is always trying to unmask each other as incompetent because it spares them the effort of being open-minded, of resisting the tempting repulsion of new thoughts, and of understanding why someone might prefer something else.
preommr 8y ago
lol because it's a meaningless statement not the least because it implies smart people always produce perfect code. I don't think it's ever a good idea to bring into question people's competency when discussing software design principles. It's hard to quantify, difficult to verify and not usually relevant. I am not assuming they're incompetent. I am disagreeing with the idea that their failure comes from just the technology and not in anyway from the actions of a developer. Whether it's because time constraints or just because shitty things happen like they do in any project regardless of how much money or how top tier the talent is.
- andrewmcwatters 8y ago
  > "I'd rather assume other people are incompetent than accept that maybe maintaining tens of thousands of components presents unique challenges that I could learn from." Entirely disingenuous, and doesn't assume good faith by communicating experience. > I am disagreeing with the idea that their failure comes from just the technology and not in anyway from the actions of a developer. Exactly. More often than not, in fact a majority of the time, people are flawed when it comes to UI development. This underscores how greatly we undervalue good engineering. It's not some thing that's just commonplace. As a barometer, not all of my coworkers are competent enough to build projects or products on their own that other engineers want to consume. In fact, especially when it comes to UI-related projects, almost none of them are competent enough to do so, and that's okay. But it means I extend this criticism outside of the workplace, where I've worked at several companies where people could hardly take Photoshop renders and accurately replicate them in HTML and CSS, nor did many of them have an appropriate grasp of the visual formatting model.

> lol "I'd rather assume other people are incompetent than accept that maybe maintaining tens of thousands of components presents unique challenges that I could learn from."

hombre_fatal 8y ago

You can click into any web-dev related discussion on HN to find someone trotting out their thinly-veiled assumption of "everyone is incompetent except for me". When I read the title of the submission, I immediately envisioned the typical "I thought we learned CSS belongs in its own file, why are web developers idiots?" comment. Everyone is always trying to unmask each other as incompetent because it spares them the effort of being open-minded, of resisting the tempting repulsion of new thoughts, and of understanding why someone might prefer something else.

preommr 8y ago

lol because it's a meaningless statement not the least because it implies smart people always produce perfect code. I don't think it's ever a good idea to bring into question people's competency when discussing software design principles. It's hard to quantify, difficult to verify and not usually relevant. I am not assuming they're incompetent. I am disagreeing with the idea that their failure comes from just the technology and not in anyway from the actions of a developer. Whether it's because time constraints or just because shitty things happen like they do in any project regardless of how much money or how top tier the talent is.

andrewmcwatters 8y ago
> "I'd rather assume other people are incompetent than accept that maybe maintaining tens of thousands of components presents unique challenges that I could learn from." Entirely disingenuous, and doesn't assume good faith by communicating experience. > I am disagreeing with the idea that their failure comes from just the technology and not in anyway from the actions of a developer. Exactly. More often than not, in fact a majority of the time, people are flawed when it comes to UI development. This underscores how greatly we undervalue good engineering. It's not some thing that's just commonplace. As a barometer, not all of my coworkers are competent enough to build projects or products on their own that other engineers want to consume. In fact, especially when it comes to UI-related projects, almost none of them are competent enough to do so, and that's okay. But it means I extend this criticism outside of the workplace, where I've worked at several companies where people could hardly take Photoshop renders and accurately replicate them in HTML and CSS, nor did many of them have an appropriate grasp of the visual formatting model.