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Has anyone tried to use an OATH site from the EU and tried to make any actual GDPR decisions? It's unusably bad. Now, it may well be perfectly legal to render

by moomin 8y ago

Has anyone tried to use an OATH site from the EU and tried to make any actual GDPR decisions? It's unusably bad. Now, it may well be perfectly legal to render the site completely unusable if you don't want the default (I'll let others argue that out) but... it's meant my personal use of these sites has dropped to zero. I literally go "Oh, OATH, never mind." I might not be in the majority, but it sounds like they could use all the visitors they can get.

martin_bech 8y ago
I do the exact same thing
_nrvs 8y ago
Same 100%
riffraff 8y ago
thanks for saying this, I thought I was the only one.
Reason077 8y ago
It seems like it’s designed to make it difficult or impossible to access OATH sites without consenting to tracking. GDPR test case waiting to happen, surely?
jfk13 8y ago
I can't imagine that's actually GDPR compliant. Since that appeared, I just won't waste my time trying to use their sites.
- yholio 8y ago
  It's clearly an asymmetric consent system, designed to make it harder to whitdraw consent. These are forbidden explicitly under GDPR.
- cribbles 8y ago
  It’s so flagrantly non-compliant that I am unsure what they stand to gain by having added it. Might as well divest from Europe entirely at that rate.
danieldk 8y ago
I literally go "Oh, OATH, never mind." Same here. But then I also started skipping Medium links for their obnoxious 'let's make it official' sheets. And as far as I understand, Oath is indeed not compliant with the GDPR, because the default action should be to not permit tracking (opt-in rather than opt-out). But IANAL. It would be nice if link aggregation sites such as Hackernews or lobste.rs provided a flag to indicate whether a linked page can be read immediately or requires clicking through overlays of any kind, so that those of us who are not interested in that crap can just skip those links. It would be nice if the web could just return to being hyperlinks between pages of text. Just don't track by default.
- u801e 8y ago
  > It would be nice if the web could just return to being hyperlinks between pages of text. Just don't track by default. That might have been possible if we had continued using gopher :).
  - jimktrains2 8y ago
    If only gopher had forms :(
- llarsson 8y ago
  Medium is infinitely better without JavaScript enabled. Get an extension for your browser that lets you block per domain.
cribbles 8y ago
Yes! The most noticeable change has been to Tumblr, which I believe presents the Oath GDPR notice on each subdomain. I have almost completely stopped visiting peoples’ Tumblrs for this reason. One unintended positive effect of GDPR, much like “turn off your adblocker or no content!” modals, has been to deter me from reading pages that, by and large, would have been a needless timesuck anyhow.

by moomin 8y ago

martin_bech 8y ago

I do the exact same thing

_nrvs 8y ago

Same 100%

riffraff 8y ago

thanks for saying this, I thought I was the only one.

Reason077 8y ago

It seems like it’s designed to make it difficult or impossible to access OATH sites without consenting to tracking. GDPR test case waiting to happen, surely?

jfk13 8y ago

I can't imagine that's actually GDPR compliant. Since that appeared, I just won't waste my time trying to use their sites.

yholio 8y ago
It's clearly an asymmetric consent system, designed to make it harder to whitdraw consent. These are forbidden explicitly under GDPR.
cribbles 8y ago
It’s so flagrantly non-compliant that I am unsure what they stand to gain by having added it. Might as well divest from Europe entirely at that rate.

danieldk 8y ago

I literally go "Oh, OATH, never mind." Same here. But then I also started skipping Medium links for their obnoxious 'let's make it official' sheets. And as far as I understand, Oath is indeed not compliant with the GDPR, because the default action should be to not permit tracking (opt-in rather than opt-out). But IANAL. It would be nice if link aggregation sites such as Hackernews or lobste.rs provided a flag to indicate whether a linked page can be read immediately or requires clicking through overlays of any kind, so that those of us who are not interested in that crap can just skip those links. It would be nice if the web could just return to being hyperlinks between pages of text. Just don't track by default.

u801e 8y ago
> It would be nice if the web could just return to being hyperlinks between pages of text. Just don't track by default. That might have been possible if we had continued using gopher :).
- jimktrains2 8y ago
  If only gopher had forms :(
llarsson 8y ago
Medium is infinitely better without JavaScript enabled. Get an extension for your browser that lets you block per domain.

cribbles 8y ago

Yes! The most noticeable change has been to Tumblr, which I believe presents the Oath GDPR notice on each subdomain. I have almost completely stopped visiting peoples’ Tumblrs for this reason. One unintended positive effect of GDPR, much like “turn off your adblocker or no content!” modals, has been to deter me from reading pages that, by and large, would have been a needless timesuck anyhow.