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though i'm both an iphone user and a mac user, i'm not happy to see the app store coming to osx. it's not because i don't think apple needs a better "package" m

though i'm both an iphone user and a mac user, i'm not happy to see the app store coming to osx. it's not because i don't think apple needs a better "package" manager for their OS, indeed they do. macports is great, but limited. though software installation isn't a major problem i feel needs fixing in osx, it's true there's no real "apt-get" for a mac. i'm unhappy about the coming changes because i feel they signal apple's becoming more meddlesome in OSX which, aside from drivers and such, has remained remarkably open until this point. with the iphone i'm willing to give up some degree of freedom/control, as i'm rewarded by the appliance-like stability of the device even though so-called "iOS multitasking" is a nightmare and needs much work. however i can't help but fear that in trying to monetize the mac in this way, that there are some dark clouds looming over the horizon. and maybe that's all it is ... fear. i hope my fears are not founded. that said, i can't look at apple's showcase products (iphone, ipad) and somewhere in my mind not start making preparations to move back to ubuntu at the first sign of trouble.

sudont 16y ago
There does need to be a good OSS equivalent of the mac's user interface to allow for people to jump ship. Not graphically styled the same, but the actual UX. Everything out there is based on Windows' taskbar style of [window > application > menu], whereas mac is roughly [application > menu > window], and allows for applications to be running in the foreground with no open windows. If there was a nix window manager that operated like this, I'd be making preparations to jump ship now. Unfortunately, everything seems to be taskbar-based with menus attached to each window. And the only attempt at improvement is that there's some pride in trying to cram more widgets on a taskbar. Alt-tabbing is another area for improvement: on the mac command tab switches between applications, whereas on windows it switches between windows. I know this is personal preference, but the Windows taskbar literally gives me a headache on a daily basis.
- kamechan 16y ago
  ubuntu is coming remarkably close these days, and i think 11 will be even better. it's just that it's not fully functional on newer macbook pros yet. not sure when support will get there for things like "automatic graphics switching" either. but when if/when it does, i'll probably jump ship. i just get a warm feeling from using ubuntu. i've already got it loaded on my old white macbook and it works great.

sudont 16y ago

There does need to be a good OSS equivalent of the mac's user interface to allow for people to jump ship. Not graphically styled the same, but the actual UX. Everything out there is based on Windows' taskbar style of [window > application > menu], whereas mac is roughly [application > menu > window], and allows for applications to be running in the foreground with no open windows. If there was a nix window manager that operated like this, I'd be making preparations to jump ship now. Unfortunately, everything seems to be taskbar-based with menus attached to each window. And the only attempt at improvement is that there's some pride in trying to cram more widgets on a taskbar. Alt-tabbing is another area for improvement: on the mac command tab switches between applications, whereas on windows it switches between windows. I know this is personal preference, but the Windows taskbar literally gives me a headache on a daily basis.

kamechan 16y ago
ubuntu is coming remarkably close these days, and i think 11 will be even better. it's just that it's not fully functional on newer macbook pros yet. not sure when support will get there for things like "automatic graphics switching" either. but when if/when it does, i'll probably jump ship. i just get a warm feeling from using ubuntu. i've already got it loaded on my old white macbook and it works great.