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This is why we can hardly ever know if a fish (which would care to remove the ink dot from their forhend after seeing it in a mirror) is more self-aware than a
by qwerty456127 8y ago
This is why we can hardly ever know if a fish (which would care to remove the ink dot from their forhend after seeing it in a mirror) is more self-aware than a gorilla (which wouldn't) or a punk (who probably wouldn't either, and I respect punks) for sure scientifically. The matter of consciousness is outside of the domain of physical reality so we can never tell a conscious self-aware creature apart from a sufficiently complex mechanism when looking from outside of the consciousness itself.
- PavlovsCat 8y ago> One day Chuang Tzu and a friend were walking by a river. "Look at the fish swimming about," said Chuang Tzu, "They are really enjoying themselves." > "You are not a fish," replied the friend, "So you can't truly know that they are enjoying themselves." > "You are not me," said Chuang Tzu. "So how do you know that I do not know that the fish are enjoying themselves?"
- perl4ever 8y agoThat seems to depend on the phrasing of the friend's statement, along with ambiguity in the word "know".