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How the 'Five Eyes' cooked up the campaign to kill Huawei

36 points by yitchelle 8y ago

1996 8y ago
That is just part 2. It was preceded by a part 1 : a negative PR campaign run for many months before, to make sure the public would approve going again Huawei. It was very evident here on HN. Governments uniting to kill a foreign company. What is the WTO doing? (lol)
- mips_avatar 8y ago
  I think if the public knew what was really going on they would be much more concerned about Huawei. Western companies are getting bombarded by cyber attacks from china and the companies hide these breaches because it would be bad PR for it to get out. A network device isn’t a commodity, the manufactures can place backdoors into them that are almost invisible. I don’t think the WTO is equipped to handle this. They can’t even handle the IP theft lawsuits against china.
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- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  "Governments uniting to kill a foreign company. What is the WTO doing? (lol)" Well, if China is going to us Huawei to spy on us then this is reasonable. And the WTO? This is sarcasm? China runs perpetually in flagrant violation of the entire set of rules. Doing business in China requires participation by local entities, giving up IP to the gov., state-sponsorhip of direct competition - the list goes on. If we were to do a tit-for-tat on those things alone, very few Chinese firms would be allowed to operate here. So we'll buy plastic stuff, not silicon stuff.
gowld 8y ago
> "vendors who are likely to be subject to extrajudicial directions from a foreign government”. Australian government only allows extrajudicial directions from a local government or an allied foreign government.
thevagrant 8y ago
I don't think there is a plan to kill Huawei. Look at what happened to ZTE, they were not killed. Also, look at what Huawei has done in the past to Nortel, Cisco and Motorola. If anything, Huawei's past is coming back to haunt them. It seems their leadership have sought growth and profits at any cost, whether legal or not. Whatever happens, I don't think Huawei will disappear. Perhaps their leadership will learn from this and they'll be more sensible with their actions in future.

36 points by yitchelle 8y ago

1996 8y ago

That is just part 2. It was preceded by a part 1 : a negative PR campaign run for many months before, to make sure the public would approve going again Huawei. It was very evident here on HN. Governments uniting to kill a foreign company. What is the WTO doing? (lol)

mips_avatar 8y ago
I think if the public knew what was really going on they would be much more concerned about Huawei. Western companies are getting bombarded by cyber attacks from china and the companies hide these breaches because it would be bad PR for it to get out. A network device isn’t a commodity, the manufactures can place backdoors into them that are almost invisible. I don’t think the WTO is equipped to handle this. They can’t even handle the IP theft lawsuits against china.
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sonnyblarney 8y ago
"Governments uniting to kill a foreign company. What is the WTO doing? (lol)" Well, if China is going to us Huawei to spy on us then this is reasonable. And the WTO? This is sarcasm? China runs perpetually in flagrant violation of the entire set of rules. Doing business in China requires participation by local entities, giving up IP to the gov., state-sponsorhip of direct competition - the list goes on. If we were to do a tit-for-tat on those things alone, very few Chinese firms would be allowed to operate here. So we'll buy plastic stuff, not silicon stuff.

gowld 8y ago

> "vendors who are likely to be subject to extrajudicial directions from a foreign government”. Australian government only allows extrajudicial directions from a local government or an allied foreign government.

thevagrant 8y ago

I don't think there is a plan to kill Huawei. Look at what happened to ZTE, they were not killed. Also, look at what Huawei has done in the past to Nortel, Cisco and Motorola. If anything, Huawei's past is coming back to haunt them. It seems their leadership have sought growth and profits at any cost, whether legal or not. Whatever happens, I don't think Huawei will disappear. Perhaps their leadership will learn from this and they'll be more sensible with their actions in future.