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What I find strange about tipping is that the employees get pissed of with the customer if he doesn't tip. If I was in their shoes I would be pissed of with my

What I find strange about tipping is that the employees get pissed of with the customer if he doesn't tip. If I was in their shoes I would be pissed of with my employer for making "beg" the customers for getting my salary. Imagine if as a software engineer I was told I would be paid half of what I am getting paid now, and for the other half I would have to go and ask for a "tip" from the end users. I would be absolutely furious.

wybiral 8y ago
The problem is that it's the norm in the US. If you have a service job (waiting tables, delivering pizza, etc) that's just how it works. You'd have to change the type of work you do because it doesn't differ much between employers.
- sfilargi 8y ago
  Aren't there any unions for the these kind of jobs?
  - 51lver 8y ago
    For positions filled people that are completely replaceable in hours, including finding and training them?
    - sfilargi 8y ago
      The answer might be obvious to you, but it is not to me. That's why I asked..
  - berbec 8y ago
    It's very hard to unionize. I ran a pizzaria for about 10 years and was the owner operator it for another 5. The employment length of tipped employees typically is around 6 months. With people coming and going so quickly, it's hard to develop the bonds that allow such organizing.
chipotle_coyote 8y ago
It is terrible, but it's the system we have here in the US. I'd like to see it changed, but in practice, if I'm at a restaurant that expects a tip, I am nearly always going to give a 20% tip unless the service is really subpar. Some people would argue that's too high, but I've been out with one too many people here who have a "well, the waitress took too long to get my check to me or misread a menu special item, so cut her tip in half" attitude.
- callalex 8y ago
  And why is it your responsibility to compensate for bad customers, instead of their employer?

wybiral 8y ago

The problem is that it's the norm in the US. If you have a service job (waiting tables, delivering pizza, etc) that's just how it works. You'd have to change the type of work you do because it doesn't differ much between employers.

sfilargi 8y ago
Aren't there any unions for the these kind of jobs?
- 51lver 8y ago
  For positions filled people that are completely replaceable in hours, including finding and training them?
  - sfilargi 8y ago
    The answer might be obvious to you, but it is not to me. That's why I asked..
- berbec 8y ago
  It's very hard to unionize. I ran a pizzaria for about 10 years and was the owner operator it for another 5. The employment length of tipped employees typically is around 6 months. With people coming and going so quickly, it's hard to develop the bonds that allow such organizing.

chipotle_coyote 8y ago

It is terrible, but it's the system we have here in the US. I'd like to see it changed, but in practice, if I'm at a restaurant that expects a tip, I am nearly always going to give a 20% tip unless the service is really subpar. Some people would argue that's too high, but I've been out with one too many people here who have a "well, the waitress took too long to get my check to me or misread a menu special item, so cut her tip in half" attitude.

callalex 8y ago
And why is it your responsibility to compensate for bad customers, instead of their employer?