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How do you feel about critical mass for average users though? Debian updating its repositories every two years is kind of antithetical to the android and mac i

How do you feel about critical mass for average users though? Debian updating its repositories every two years is kind of antithetical to the android and mac idea of software repositories. I've not tried elementaryOS, but I thought it was similar.

linuxftw 8y ago
Plenty of software vendors provide packages that are compatible across releases such as google chrome and mariadb. Checkout Mariadb's releases for Ubuntu: http://mirrors.syringanetworks.net/mariadb//mariadb-10.3.11/repo/ubuntu/dists/ http://mirrors.syringanetworks.net/mariadb//mariadb-10.3.11/... Just the system packages need to be stable (eg, distro's repos). Also worth mentioning is snaps and flatpacks (though I'm not personally a fan, they do exist).
zozbot123 8y ago
Debian updates its stable release repositories every two years (aside from pure bugfixes and the like, of course) because this is what it takes to have a rock-solid software release-- with a truly negligible amount of issues for the computer-naïve "average user" to be bitten by-- given the resources they have at present and the overall state of upstream software. If people want more frequent updates, coupled with the same overall reliability that Debian has always been known for (far more than many other Linux distributions), they're welcome to contribute.
saghm 8y ago
There are distros not based on Debian out there, many of which update their packages more often than every two years
flukus 8y ago
Average users hate updates, that's a major reason MS (and others like chrome) have to be so aggressive about forcing them, it's why so many stick with XP and 7. They hate security updates because they're an annoyance that does things they don't understand and they hate app updates that change the UI under their nose. If you gave them a system and promised nothing major would change for 5 years they'd be thankful.
- Nerdfest 8y ago
  You can run fully transparent updates in Linux using tools from Canonical, Oracle, etc. I have absolutely no idea how people put up with how badly Windows does updates, and really, XBox is not far behind.

linuxftw 8y ago

Plenty of software vendors provide packages that are compatible across releases such as google chrome and mariadb. Checkout Mariadb's releases for Ubuntu: http://mirrors.syringanetworks.net/mariadb//mariadb-10.3.11/repo/ubuntu/dists/ http://mirrors.syringanetworks.net/mariadb//mariadb-10.3.11/... Just the system packages need to be stable (eg, distro's repos). Also worth mentioning is snaps and flatpacks (though I'm not personally a fan, they do exist).

zozbot123 8y ago

Debian updates its stable release repositories every two years (aside from pure bugfixes and the like, of course) because this is what it takes to have a rock-solid software release-- with a truly negligible amount of issues for the computer-naïve "average user" to be bitten by-- given the resources they have at present and the overall state of upstream software. If people want more frequent updates, coupled with the same overall reliability that Debian has always been known for (far more than many other Linux distributions), they're welcome to contribute.

saghm 8y ago

There are distros not based on Debian out there, many of which update their packages more often than every two years

flukus 8y ago

Average users hate updates, that's a major reason MS (and others like chrome) have to be so aggressive about forcing them, it's why so many stick with XP and 7. They hate security updates because they're an annoyance that does things they don't understand and they hate app updates that change the UI under their nose. If you gave them a system and promised nothing major would change for 5 years they'd be thankful.

Nerdfest 8y ago
You can run fully transparent updates in Linux using tools from Canonical, Oracle, etc. I have absolutely no idea how people put up with how badly Windows does updates, and really, XBox is not far behind.