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Unbelievable. It would be an atrocity merely to rob someone of “non-vital” organs that they can live without, like a spare kidney. To murder someone and profi

Unbelievable. It would be an atrocity merely to rob someone of “non-vital” organs that they can live without, like a spare kidney. To murder someone and profit from the sale of vital organs is simply beyond my comprehension. I cannot fathom a more monstrous act.

tropo 8y ago
There is another way to look at this. These are people who are already subject to execution. They get to stay alive a bit longer in order to preserve the organs. So rather than causing death, the possibility of organ transplants is what keeps these people alive.
- PavlovsCat 8y ago
  There's always a more depraved way to look at something. Unless you actually hold that view, why dig for it?
- BonesJustice 8y ago
  Supposedly the prisoners were alive and conscious while they were cut open and their organs removed (no anesthesic). If I’m going to die, I think I’d rather face the firing squad and get it over with. And then there’s the extraordinarily perverse profit motive to arrest more dissidents for organ harvesting.
  - chillacy 8y ago
    Why would they do that? That has to be unpleasant for the doctors and damaging to the organs themselves... or is this “fake news”
    - BonesJustice 8y ago
      That was my first reaction too: it risks damaging the valuable organs that they’re going to extraordinary lengths to ‘acquire’. The testimony came from an officer who stood guard while it happened.
PavlovsCat 8y ago
> Until now the totalitarian belief that everything is possible seems to have proved only that everything can be destroyed. Yet, in their effort to prove that everything is possible, totalitarian regimes have discovered without knowing it that there are crimes which men can neither punish nor forgive. [..] we actually have nothing to fall back on in order to understand a phenomenon that nevertheless confronts us with its overpowering reality and breaks down all the standards we know. There is only one thing that seems to be discernible: we may say that radical evil has emerged in connection with a system in which all men have become equally superfluous. -- Hannah Arendt, "The Origins of Totalitarianism"

tropo 8y ago

There is another way to look at this. These are people who are already subject to execution. They get to stay alive a bit longer in order to preserve the organs. So rather than causing death, the possibility of organ transplants is what keeps these people alive.

PavlovsCat 8y ago
There's always a more depraved way to look at something. Unless you actually hold that view, why dig for it?
BonesJustice 8y ago
Supposedly the prisoners were alive and conscious while they were cut open and their organs removed (no anesthesic). If I’m going to die, I think I’d rather face the firing squad and get it over with. And then there’s the extraordinarily perverse profit motive to arrest more dissidents for organ harvesting.
- chillacy 8y ago
  Why would they do that? That has to be unpleasant for the doctors and damaging to the organs themselves... or is this “fake news”
  - BonesJustice 8y ago
    That was my first reaction too: it risks damaging the valuable organs that they’re going to extraordinary lengths to ‘acquire’. The testimony came from an officer who stood guard while it happened.

PavlovsCat 8y ago

> Until now the totalitarian belief that everything is possible seems to have proved only that everything can be destroyed. Yet, in their effort to prove that everything is possible, totalitarian regimes have discovered without knowing it that there are crimes which men can neither punish nor forgive. [..] we actually have nothing to fall back on in order to understand a phenomenon that nevertheless confronts us with its overpowering reality and breaks down all the standards we know. There is only one thing that seems to be discernible: we may say that radical evil has emerged in connection with a system in which all men have become equally superfluous. -- Hannah Arendt, "The Origins of Totalitarianism"