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> How much incentive will there be for them to develop a separate car purely for the US market? Aren't they doing that already? The whole pickup truck class mo

by dao- 8y ago

> How much incentive will there be for them to develop a separate car purely for the US market? Aren't they doing that already? The whole pickup truck class mostly doesn't exist outside of the US.

clouddrover 8y ago
Well, they're selling them in Australia: https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger/ https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger/ And in China soon if not already: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ford-motor-china-idUSKBN17916D https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ford-motor-china-idUSKBN1... https://www.ford.com.cn/performance/raptor/ https://www.ford.com.cn/performance/raptor/
- mtw 8y ago
  Do they sell the full-size trucks in Australia or China (like F-150 instead of Ford Ranger, Toyota Tundra instead of Tacoma/Hilux)
  - dsfyu404ed 8y ago
    I know there's a Chinese company that makes a near direct F150 knockoff. I'm not sure how many get sold but clearly the market exists.
- tomatotomato37 8y ago
  Australia is essentially upsidedown America, so that doesn't surprise me. I wonder why the demand in China though; maybe they just have enough population that everything is viable to sell?
paganel 8y ago
> The whole pickup truck class mostly doesn't exist outside of the US. Exactly. Just owning a 4-liter or a 5-liter engine (never mind the 7-liter engine present in some of the higher-end trucks) is price-prohibitive for tax reasons in almost half of European countries (if not more), that's before we get to the price of gasoline at the pump. I think China is the same. Yeah, there are some crazy people who still buy them over here in Europe, but imho they have more money than sense, the same way that there are crazy people who buy a second-hand 10-year old VW Phaeton with the W12 engine, a great car in itself but which will leave a even greater hole in one's pockets.
- calgoo 8y ago
  There is also the issue that some of those trucks dont fit on inner city streets as they are just too big.
jdhn 8y ago
Pickups absolutely exist outside of the US. It's just that the pickups that are sold elsewhere are generally smaller than what we're used to in the US (think old Ford Ranger/Chevy S10 size instead of a new F-150).
- Sharlin 8y ago
  Mostly in the countryside. Living in a ~200k population city I usually see a pickup maybe a few times a month.

by dao- 8y ago

> How much incentive will there be for them to develop a separate car purely for the US market? Aren't they doing that already? The whole pickup truck class mostly doesn't exist outside of the US.

clouddrover 8y ago

Well, they're selling them in Australia: https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger/ https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger/ And in China soon if not already: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ford-motor-china-idUSKBN17916D https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ford-motor-china-idUSKBN1... https://www.ford.com.cn/performance/raptor/ https://www.ford.com.cn/performance/raptor/

mtw 8y ago
Do they sell the full-size trucks in Australia or China (like F-150 instead of Ford Ranger, Toyota Tundra instead of Tacoma/Hilux)
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  I know there's a Chinese company that makes a near direct F150 knockoff. I'm not sure how many get sold but clearly the market exists.
tomatotomato37 8y ago
Australia is essentially upsidedown America, so that doesn't surprise me. I wonder why the demand in China though; maybe they just have enough population that everything is viable to sell?

paganel 8y ago

> The whole pickup truck class mostly doesn't exist outside of the US. Exactly. Just owning a 4-liter or a 5-liter engine (never mind the 7-liter engine present in some of the higher-end trucks) is price-prohibitive for tax reasons in almost half of European countries (if not more), that's before we get to the price of gasoline at the pump. I think China is the same. Yeah, there are some crazy people who still buy them over here in Europe, but imho they have more money than sense, the same way that there are crazy people who buy a second-hand 10-year old VW Phaeton with the W12 engine, a great car in itself but which will leave a even greater hole in one's pockets.

calgoo 8y ago
There is also the issue that some of those trucks dont fit on inner city streets as they are just too big.

jdhn 8y ago

Pickups absolutely exist outside of the US. It's just that the pickups that are sold elsewhere are generally smaller than what we're used to in the US (think old Ford Ranger/Chevy S10 size instead of a new F-150).

Sharlin 8y ago
Mostly in the countryside. Living in a ~200k population city I usually see a pickup maybe a few times a month.