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They did in Australia. The unfortunate circumstance being the definition of a gang meant anyone affiliated or sharing colours that could be contributed to a 'gr

They did in Australia. The unfortunate circumstance being the definition of a gang meant anyone affiliated or sharing colours that could be contributed to a 'group' when in the vicinity of one and other could be convicted. Wether intended or coincidental (e.g. you go to the Pub wearing the colours of a Union or Football Club and by co-incidence, 2 others are in the same premise of the same affiliation. The definition of a gang is 3+ persons wearing 'affiliated colours'. 1) https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-30/queensland-reworks-anti-bikie-laws-toughest-crime-laws/8077572 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-30/queensland-reworks-an... 2) https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/secret-report-reveals-antibikie-laws-are-useless-to-control-gangs-and-recommends-law-abolished/news-story/daeb98153e8eb21b240dfed4f81b4f41 https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/secret-report-re... 3) http://www.proctorlaw.com.au/law-blog/criminal-law/vlad-laws-queensland-bikies/ http://www.proctorlaw.com.au/law-blog/criminal-law/vlad-laws...

rozenmd 8y ago
The rules are so ridiculous that High-vis gear counts as "gang colours"
- FuckOffNeemo 8y ago
  Yup. Ridiculous.
- baud147258 8y ago
  Well, with the 'Yellow vests' protests in France this last few months, it wouldn't be that surprising
lurker82 8y ago
There is always room for scope creep however I don't see why you would be defending violent gangs.
- cyphar 8y ago
  I would suggest that blatantly strawmaning someone only worsens your position (and breaks one of the HN guidelines). They weren't "defending violent gangs" in any way, they were providing a practical example where laws were passed to try to do what you said and they obviously didn't work as expected (nor did they solve the problem). Maybe providing another example (or proposal) would be a better way to discuss your position.
- acct1771 8y ago
  Was Tupac a violent gang member? After all...he shot police.
  - lurker82 8y ago
    I'd say tupac wasn't exactly an example of a good member of society

rozenmd 8y ago

The rules are so ridiculous that High-vis gear counts as "gang colours"

FuckOffNeemo 8y ago
Yup. Ridiculous.
baud147258 8y ago
Well, with the 'Yellow vests' protests in France this last few months, it wouldn't be that surprising

lurker82 8y ago

There is always room for scope creep however I don't see why you would be defending violent gangs.

cyphar 8y ago
I would suggest that blatantly strawmaning someone only worsens your position (and breaks one of the HN guidelines). They weren't "defending violent gangs" in any way, they were providing a practical example where laws were passed to try to do what you said and they obviously didn't work as expected (nor did they solve the problem). Maybe providing another example (or proposal) would be a better way to discuss your position.
acct1771 8y ago
Was Tupac a violent gang member? After all...he shot police.
- lurker82 8y ago
  I'd say tupac wasn't exactly an example of a good member of society