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If this is a retaliation and they intend on continuing on this. China is going to find it's self on the bad end of travel advisories by a lot of western nations

by monksy 8y ago

If this is a retaliation and they intend on continuing on this. China is going to find it's self on the bad end of travel advisories by a lot of western nations. BTW There have been videos about "tourist crackdowns" and how some of the authoritarian governments use visitors as scapegoats of bad behavior.

tinza123 8y ago
That seems to be the least of the problems right now. And of course when Canada just arrested business people they never need to worry about the travel advisories for Chinese ppl.
- monksy 8y ago
  I'm suggesting is that a lot of western nations may place it on a "Risky Travel location" warning.
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diminish 8y ago
US has become a risky destination for ordinary business travel. I suppose business and tech conferences better take place in neutral places where rule of law prevails.
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  This is simply false, and the US will continue to be the #1 location for tech conferences for the foreseeable future. The only risk to travellers is that US customs may require people to see their Facebook profiles etc. - which is bad - but nobody is getting arrested arbitrarily, and even if they were 'rule of law prevails'.
  - ahakki 8y ago
    Well I don’t know about tech, but multiple swiss banks have had internal advisories against visit to the US, as some of their employees have been arrested.
    - sonnyblarney 8y ago
      Swiss banks have been hiding assets of people worldwide and many nations consider that a crime. So yes, if you're helping Americans cheat on their taxes, you're going to get arrested. So the 'advisory' would be: don't break laws.
      - NTDF9 8y ago
        > So the 'advisory' would be: don't break laws. Whose laws? Why should the Swiss follow US laws? What if the US establishes arbitrary laws? Should the Swiss still follow those laws?
        tomp 8y ago
        But that's the point, no? Swiss have their own laws (hiding assets), US have their own laws (arresting people who hide assets), seems perfectly fair. Personally, I wish no developed (e.g. EU, US) country would allow any economic relationship with any country that allows tax avoidance (like 0% tax) or tax evasion (like bank secrecy).
        NTDF9 8y ago
        > Personally, I wish no developed (e.g. EU, US) country would allow any economic relationship with any country that allows tax avoidance (like 0% tax) or tax evasion (like bank secrecy). But US allows huge tax deductions for businesses. Maybe other countries don't? Wouldn't they have a right to say, "Personally, I wish no developed (e.g. EU, US) country would allow any economic relationship with any country that allows unfair deductions or tax evasion (like states give to Amazon).
        8y ago
- alextooter 8y ago
  I remember German and France businessmen arrest in US. IMF's ex president is also arrest because he question the GOLD problem.
- mips_avatar 8y ago
  It’s a risky place to go if you break US sanction and export law.
- golfer 8y ago
  (Citation needed)
thestephen 8y ago
China is actually doing something similar right now, albeit in a different way: https://nordic.businessinsider.com/china-swedens-bizarre-feud-tourists-claim-brutal-murder-attempt-2018-9?r=US&IR=T https://nordic.businessinsider.com/china-swedens-bizarre-feu... Chinese tourists visiting a Swedish hostel in Stockholm sparked an international incident when they appeared on video screaming and crying and accusing local police of trying to murder them. The "graveyard" they were dropped off at is more of a park, with a train station 8 minutes from the city.
secwait 8y ago
China will avoid doing the same with other nationalities. Only canadians will be targeted. And they will not target people with no significance. They also don't care about other chinese nationals getting harrassed in canada. They want to prevent rich people from taking more money out of the country any way. Problems with canada will get that good side effect. China care very much about Huawei and tech sector overall. They will do anything it takes to help them. If you are canadian and maybe maybe also american who is somebody (not nobody), you may want to avoid china in your trips now.

by monksy 8y ago

tinza123 8y ago

That seems to be the least of the problems right now. And of course when Canada just arrested business people they never need to worry about the travel advisories for Chinese ppl.

monksy 8y ago
I'm suggesting is that a lot of western nations may place it on a "Risky Travel location" warning.

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diminish 8y ago

US has become a risky destination for ordinary business travel. I suppose business and tech conferences better take place in neutral places where rule of law prevails.

sonnyblarney 8y ago
This is simply false, and the US will continue to be the #1 location for tech conferences for the foreseeable future. The only risk to travellers is that US customs may require people to see their Facebook profiles etc. - which is bad - but nobody is getting arrested arbitrarily, and even if they were 'rule of law prevails'.
- ahakki 8y ago
  Well I don’t know about tech, but multiple swiss banks have had internal advisories against visit to the US, as some of their employees have been arrested.
  - sonnyblarney 8y ago
    Swiss banks have been hiding assets of people worldwide and many nations consider that a crime. So yes, if you're helping Americans cheat on their taxes, you're going to get arrested. So the 'advisory' would be: don't break laws.
    - NTDF9 8y ago
      > So the 'advisory' would be: don't break laws. Whose laws? Why should the Swiss follow US laws? What if the US establishes arbitrary laws? Should the Swiss still follow those laws?
      - tomp 8y ago
        But that's the point, no? Swiss have their own laws (hiding assets), US have their own laws (arresting people who hide assets), seems perfectly fair. Personally, I wish no developed (e.g. EU, US) country would allow any economic relationship with any country that allows tax avoidance (like 0% tax) or tax evasion (like bank secrecy).
        NTDF9 8y ago
        > Personally, I wish no developed (e.g. EU, US) country would allow any economic relationship with any country that allows tax avoidance (like 0% tax) or tax evasion (like bank secrecy). But US allows huge tax deductions for businesses. Maybe other countries don't? Wouldn't they have a right to say, "Personally, I wish no developed (e.g. EU, US) country would allow any economic relationship with any country that allows unfair deductions or tax evasion (like states give to Amazon).
        8y ago
alextooter 8y ago
I remember German and France businessmen arrest in US. IMF's ex president is also arrest because he question the GOLD problem.
mips_avatar 8y ago
It’s a risky place to go if you break US sanction and export law.
golfer 8y ago
(Citation needed)

thestephen 8y ago

China is actually doing something similar right now, albeit in a different way: https://nordic.businessinsider.com/china-swedens-bizarre-feud-tourists-claim-brutal-murder-attempt-2018-9?r=US&IR=T https://nordic.businessinsider.com/china-swedens-bizarre-feu... Chinese tourists visiting a Swedish hostel in Stockholm sparked an international incident when they appeared on video screaming and crying and accusing local police of trying to murder them. The "graveyard" they were dropped off at is more of a park, with a train station 8 minutes from the city.

secwait 8y ago

China will avoid doing the same with other nationalities. Only canadians will be targeted. And they will not target people with no significance. They also don't care about other chinese nationals getting harrassed in canada. They want to prevent rich people from taking more money out of the country any way. Problems with canada will get that good side effect. China care very much about Huawei and tech sector overall. They will do anything it takes to help them. If you are canadian and maybe maybe also american who is somebody (not nobody), you may want to avoid china in your trips now.