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Isn't that trespassing on military property? I would shit myself, the risk is too high to be detained and accused of spying.

trhway 8y ago
>Isn't that trespassing on military property? I would shit myself, the risk is too high to be detained and accused of spying. in Russia it isn't blind straight application of Femida. Instead it is always personal - you can be accused of spying or given a private tour, especially if you have a bottle of good cognac and a high quality cold smoked salmon to share :)
- sverige 8y ago
  > in Russia it isn't blind straight application of Femida. Instead it is always personal - you can be accused of spying or given a private tour, especially if you have a bottle of good cognac and a high quality cold smoked salmon to share :) That's the better way right there. We need more of that attitude in the U.S.
  - trhway 8y ago
    > We need more of that attitude in the U.S. everything has its price, and as an immigrant to US from Russia, i'm not sure that i would recommend for that attitude/approach to be applied here, at least not in full force, may be if just a bit/sometimes :)
    - sverige 8y ago
      Yeah, my point was not to run the entire society that way. We have too much of that on the big issues. Rather, it's OK to have it on a small scale where it's basically harmless, like paying off some cop with a little vodka when you get caught trespassing on some private land because you want to see some old space shuttles. And not OK when you steal billions with some fake mortgage repackaging that you sell to investors. The U.S. has gone too far on the small stuff, and completely misses the big stuff. Posted something crass on Twitter 10 years ago? That's it, you're fired! We should consider jailing you! Amassed hundreds of millions of dollars while earning a government salary? No problem, nothing to see here.
  - moftz 8y ago
    We pretty much do. If you have enough money, there is no such thing as legal trouble. It was just a misunderstanding (once the check clears, of course).
  - na85 8y ago
    You're replying to a description of corruption. You have that already. Wealthy corporations write your laws and the corporate elite are immune to prosecution.
sannee 8y ago
In the article, they say that "they're not even owned any longer by the Russian government.". So maybe it's just garden variety trespassing on private property?
kweks 8y ago
Not strictly military, but typically it's the FSB that turns up.
- virgilp 8y ago
  That actually makes it worse.
monocasa 8y ago
People do the same thing in the states. https://www.outtherecolorado.com/abandoned-nuclear-missile-silos-colorado/ https://www.outtherecolorado.com/abandoned-nuclear-missile-s...

trhway 8y ago

>Isn't that trespassing on military property? I would shit myself, the risk is too high to be detained and accused of spying. in Russia it isn't blind straight application of Femida. Instead it is always personal - you can be accused of spying or given a private tour, especially if you have a bottle of good cognac and a high quality cold smoked salmon to share :)

sverige 8y ago
> in Russia it isn't blind straight application of Femida. Instead it is always personal - you can be accused of spying or given a private tour, especially if you have a bottle of good cognac and a high quality cold smoked salmon to share :) That's the better way right there. We need more of that attitude in the U.S.
- trhway 8y ago
  > We need more of that attitude in the U.S. everything has its price, and as an immigrant to US from Russia, i'm not sure that i would recommend for that attitude/approach to be applied here, at least not in full force, may be if just a bit/sometimes :)
  - sverige 8y ago
    Yeah, my point was not to run the entire society that way. We have too much of that on the big issues. Rather, it's OK to have it on a small scale where it's basically harmless, like paying off some cop with a little vodka when you get caught trespassing on some private land because you want to see some old space shuttles. And not OK when you steal billions with some fake mortgage repackaging that you sell to investors. The U.S. has gone too far on the small stuff, and completely misses the big stuff. Posted something crass on Twitter 10 years ago? That's it, you're fired! We should consider jailing you! Amassed hundreds of millions of dollars while earning a government salary? No problem, nothing to see here.
- moftz 8y ago
  We pretty much do. If you have enough money, there is no such thing as legal trouble. It was just a misunderstanding (once the check clears, of course).
- na85 8y ago
  You're replying to a description of corruption. You have that already. Wealthy corporations write your laws and the corporate elite are immune to prosecution.

sannee 8y ago

In the article, they say that "they're not even owned any longer by the Russian government.". So maybe it's just garden variety trespassing on private property?

kweks 8y ago

Not strictly military, but typically it's the FSB that turns up.

virgilp 8y ago
That actually makes it worse.

monocasa 8y ago

People do the same thing in the states. https://www.outtherecolorado.com/abandoned-nuclear-missile-silos-colorado/ https://www.outtherecolorado.com/abandoned-nuclear-missile-s...