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Show HN: Strength News – An HN-inspired website for sport and gym enthusiasts
- oftenwrong 8y agoOne thing I like about HN is its lightweight, unobtrusive, and respectful design. ---- Hacker News: 7 requests 61.10 KB / 20.65 KB transferred Finish: 1.04 s DOMContentLoaded: 484 ms load: 876 ms Doesn't require JS Doesn't have a floating top bar Doesn't load content from third-party domains ---- Strength News: 13 requests 1.07 MB / 358.76 KB transferred Finish: 2.28 s DOMContentLoaded: 1 s load: 1.39 s Requires JS Has a floating top bar Loads content from third-party domains, including tracking scripts --- That criticism aside, I like the concept, and would probably use it if it had active discussions, like HN.
- hknd 8y ago>1MB for such a simple website is an absolute dealbreaker :(
- chris_wot 8y agoIt loads absolutely slowly
- diminoten 8y agoStrictly speaking, it's relatively slow, not absolutely slow. If websites all loaded in 10s and this one loaded in 1s, it'd be blazing fast. That said, it took 1.74s to load for me, I wouldn't call that slow by any stretch of the word.
- chris_wot 8y agoNot when I looked at it. In fact, when I looked at it, nothing was loading.
- rubyfan 8y agoI like the concept too. Unfortunately due to all those things loading it wouldn’t work in Safari on iOS. I use Firefox Focus as an ad blocker and I suspect it doesn’t like a bunch of the techniques used to load content.
- pen2l 8y agoIf you want active discussions, r/gainit or r/fitness isn’t too bad. As well as the weightlifting subreddits — really nice and supportive folks there.
- stefs 8y agoi guess r/weightroom would be the best match. it has daily threads reserved for banter but is otherwise well moderated. r/bodybuilding is pure meme, r/weightlifting pretty focused on the sport itself. r/fitness has a lot of questions by beginners who ask the same thing every single day. i don't know r/powerlifting, but i heard it's very memey too. nah, imo r/weightroom is the best, but as a newcomer, please lurk for a couple of weeks until you learn the rules and culture.
- zacym 8y agoThere's also /r/AdvancedFitness.
- NicoJuicy 8y agoSomething like http://handlr.sapico.me/ http://handlr.sapico.me/ ? :p My own creation. Use it as a RSS-reader, todo list and Post to HN now. I have some variaties running of it, eg. for my current city where i live.
- oftenwrong 8y agoLike HN with tags. Very cool! I wish it did not require an email address to sign up. On HN it is optional.
- NicoJuicy 8y agoIt's the default on asp.net actually and it makes sense, had a lot of spam at first.
- todd3834 8y agoThis is great feedback to help optimize the site but I wouldn’t lose sleep over it u til you’ve proven the concept. As an early iteration I’m glad you made a useful tool and you shipped it. Optimizing bundle sizes is much easier than making something useful. That being said, getting feedback like this helps you spot ways to make it better. I’m on an iPhone X with very good data most of the time so my opinion is going to be biased toward not caring about 1MB of js that will be cached in future visits.
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- DryJuggernaut 8y agoI'm one of the two creators of this website. It grew out of the problem of Moistjuggernaut that he couldn't find any in dept training articles. So I helped him set up this MVP to see if we can find people with the same interest. The site itself is built with vue.js + firebase. Commenting is definitely the next functionality we are going to add. With ssr we want to tackle the no JavaScript issue we are currently having.
- blorenz 8y agoA quick search about your tech yielded https://vuejs.org/v2/examples/hackernews.html https://vuejs.org/v2/examples/hackernews.html (which demoes at https://vue-hn.now.sh/top https://vue-hn.now.sh/top) Maybe you can advance your site with some learnings from that. Keep at it, gratz on the launch!
- lihaciudaniel 8y agoJust a reminder that HN become popular in spite of his CMS not because of it
- anon4930 8y agoThe best place I've seen for in-depth training articles it the Advanced Fitness subreddit, https://old.reddit.com/r/AdvancedFitness/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AdvancedFitness/
- nik736 8y agoI don't understand why such a simple site requires JS to work.
- someguy101010 8y agoWhy wouldn't you use a convenient tool at your disposal?
- miobrien 8y agoI like this idea. HN has the ideal format for informed discussion.
- evo_9 8y agoWow these comments are bordering on toxic. The dude created something useful in his sparetime Jesus Christ nobody has anything better to do than complain about JS and load times??? Site runs fine on my iPhone and desktop, lighten up !
- krat0sprakhar 8y agoI don't think its fair to call the comments toxic. The OP is titled "HN-inspired" so its only fair to compare it with HN, no?
- wenc 8y agoI think if it's on Show HN, there's an implicit assumption that one is interested in the question "what's the most critical feedback, right or wrong, I can get?" JS and load time commenters represent a particular demographic within HN which may not necessarily represent mainstream opinion, so no need to get worked up over them. Just recognize them for what they are, mentally filter them out, and move on to other more insightful comments.
- syndacks 8y agoI agree. Building an MVP with something like React et al makes sense because it's a pleasurable developer experience. Comments like the ones on this thread make me scared to show any side projects I have/might develop.
- akx 8y agoAnd it's dead. Dev console says "Firebase quota exceeded".
- krat0sprakhar 8y agoAll I see is the loading icon.. seems like their Firebase quota exhausted https://imgur.com/a/LwBdMfi https://imgur.com/a/LwBdMfi
- rhcom2 8y agoI've found a lot of high quality discussions at reddit.com/weightroom
- markhall 8y agoPage doesn't exist. Can't figure out if this is sarcasm or what
- throwaway5692 8y agoreddit.com/r/weightroom - does exist and is good!
- rhcom2 8y agoWoops, forgot the /r/, thanks!
- stefs 8y agoweightroom is, in my opinion, one of the best resources for strength athletes right now. just keep in mind that it has its own peculiar nature and rules; if you're a newcomer, keep your contribution to the daily thread until you learn the rules. it's more in the style of askhistorians; so strictly moderated and low-effort comments are generally not tolerated except for the daily thread, which is fun.
- aloukissas 8y agoSite is dead :/ couple of errors thrown in the console.
- vezycash 8y agoThe inspiration's only skin deep. No discussion functionality and most importantly, doesn't work without javascript.
- brian_herman__ 8y agoYeah, but nowadays what doesn't work without javascript...
- dictum 8y agoEven the new (2018+) version of Reddit displays content without requiring JS. Pagination is only broken because the returned HTML doesn't have prev/next links, but they could be trivially added (and hidden when JS is on).
- jstanley 8y agoLots of things don't work without javascript (I assume you meant to ask what does work without javascript), but HN, for example, does work without javascript.
- maxxxxx 8y agoSuch a simple site should work without. It's basically a list of links.
- todd3834 8y agoDepends on the demographic. I don’t know that we can say what it should or shouldn’t do without data. Why should it work without JS
- smaps 8y agoNo discussion is a big negative for me
- tugberkk 8y agoI agree with this comment. I would personally very much like to see some talk about given links. However, I believe it would decrease the quality down. Yes, Hackernews has this; but there are really well-informed people here and active. It is not the same with fitness world.
- maxxxxx 8y agoIsn't this basically a newsfeed?
- vthallam 8y agowhy not r/fitness. These kind of crowd sourced websites require a lot of people to use it. last i checked r/fitness has millions of subscribers.
- ropable 8y agoPoor signal:noise ratio, IMO.
- 0xCMP 8y agoIt looks nice. I don't mind it requiring JS, although I certainly agree a website of this kind doesn't need it similar to how HN has only a few lines of it. I assume this is an MVP and the commenting and other HN features will come later.
- cheshireoctopus 8y agoNice work. Excited to see where you take it! Related: very happy to see that https://forum.bodybuilding.com/ https://forum.bodybuilding.com/ is still around/thriving.
- evo_9 8y agoHey pretty nice, cool idea. I'm wondering how you got your initial users? I've had similar ideas but a site like this is kinda useless without content, and without content, nobody will read it/post. Catch-22, etc.
- faitswulff 8y agoMoistjuggernaut, do you subscribe to r/fitness or r/advancedfitness? Just curious what you see differentiating strengthnws from those options.
- Moistjuggernaut 8y agoI am with r/fitness, where my overall opinion is the lack of quality and the same recurring posts and superficial questions. IMO this subreddit is good for going from beginner to intermediate. As for advancedfitness I wasn't aware this was a subreddit so thank you! I just spent some time going over it, I think our goals are similar but if I had to point something out it would be the diversity of topics, meaning I would maybe like more off topic posts. Although while typing this I'm realizing this is probably an insignificant difference and difficult to maintain. I'll have to think about it once I get more familiar with the subreddit. Thank you for pointing this out.
- tomtomau 8y agor/weightroom tends to higher quality than r/fitness
- speedplane 8y ago> r/weightroom tends to higher quality than r/fitness Causation or correlation?
- msoucy 8y agoI like the idea, but it doesn't load any content for me at all: Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at https://firestore.googleapis.com/google.firestore.v1beta1.Firestore/Listen/channel?database=projects%2Fstrengthnews-e5a40%2Fdatabases%2F(default)&gsessionid=IUYyH6STWlLOBBqfQH-UNwlTGZZIplrA&VER=8&RID=rpc&SID=g__62zvCW3XsnHmxGIGKrw&CI=0&AID=0&TYPE=xmlhttp&zx=a2tcqj79gmaw&t=1. (Reason: CORS request did not succeed). @firebase/firestore: Firestore (5.5.9): Could not reach Cloud Firestore backend. Backend didn't respond within 10 seconds. This typically indicates that your device does not have a healthy Internet connection at the moment. The client will operate in offline mode until it is able to successfully connect to the backend.
- kazinator 8y agoCholesterol article fails to mention how the USDA softened its dietary guidelines in 2015 with regard to cholesterol. There is no longer a recommended maximum intake limit. The exact wording: "Adequate evidence is not available for a quantitative limit for dietary cholesterol specific to the Dietary Guidelines." There is still bullshit about limiting dietary cholesterol though; they are waffling on the issue.
- askafriend 8y agoI bounced from the site before it loaded. Don't have time for such a slow site, sorry.
- tbodt 8y agoWebsite doesn't load, all I see is in the console: > Unhandled Promise Rejection: FirebaseError: Quota exceeded.
- austinhutch 8y agoHN: Modern web development is defined by javascript frameworks, server side rendering is dead. Also HN: Your site uses javascript? Unacceptable.
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- jf- 8y agoHN3: Depends on your use case.
- LeoPanthera 8y agoIt's almost as if Hacker News doesn't represent a single homogenous group of people that all share the same views.
- 0db532a0 8y agoAll the comments about JS are, to use Hacker News lingo, “tangential”. As someone who both lifts and enjoys the environment of Hacker News, I would very much appreciate a website outside of Reddit or the more mainstream lifting forums, full of bro-science, anecd(o/a)tal comments and misinformation, where I could discover interesting and factual articles and studies on how to improve my lifting. This would be a benefit to the whole community.
- fastball 8y agoOff-topic: I say "H. N." in my head whenever I see Hacker News as an acronym. My question is, when you have an acronym that you tend to say the individual letters of, do you change the a/an? For example, this example would be "an aech en inspired ...", where if you read the acronym as "Hacker News", it would be "a Hacker News inspired...". Another common example is FBI. It always irks me when I see "a FBI agent", but I'm not sure which is actually correct.
- atom-morgan 8y ago> when you have an acronym that you tend to say the individual letters of, do you change the a/an? It depends on the sound the acronym, or initialism, starts with. So "an FBI" because you say "EFF-BEE-EYE" vs. "a CIA agent".
- Raro 8y agoThe general style guide is to "write it how you say it": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_(grammar)#Indefinite_article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_(grammar)#Indefinite_a... https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Abbreviations/faq0005.html https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/A... Of course there will be variants where you'd just have to make a decision (e.g. how do you pronounce SQL?) One note: technically, 'HN' is an initialism; acronyms are special cases of initialisms that are pronounceable.
- diminoten 8y agoHN is "good" (debatable) because it's backed by Y Combinator. The tech involved is the bare minimum needed to solve the problem, and isn't a good model for "how to successfully build and run a community". Without the support of some of the most powerful people in SV, and the people who follow those people, this site ceases to exist, and quickly. Replicating HN's simplicity/tech stack is like painting stripes on your Civic because the F1 car you like has them.
- jf- 8y agoIf you like HN, why not use it? This purports to be a mirror of the source (I don’t see an original repo): https://github.com/wting/hackernews https://github.com/wting/hackernews
- mancerayder 8y agoFantastic! I already saw some interesting articles. In fact science is greatly needed in this area, where there's less of a scientific focus on a lot of popular media sites on the topic. I end up personally learning a lot more actual SCIENCE from YouTube sites such as FitnessFAQ's and Calisthenics Movement than fitness websites with articles. I've spent ages understanding pathologies I've had, upper trap pain and elbow pain, and recently made some inroads. Question - where's the comment section? HN's commenting quality and mechanisms are why it's so much above Reddit intellectually.
- jermaustin1 8y agoThis seems more reddit-inspired than HN-inspired. That said, looks nice and clean, there is less clutter than reddit. So overall, its pretty good. Once you add comments and an "Ask" section like on HN, it would be a good replacement for r/fitness.
- johnchristopher 8y agoAny reasons you didn't go with https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters ?
- todd3834 8y agoI love it! Top post on eggs is exactly the kind of content I was hoping for. I’m sure you plan on adding comments. I will be a regular user and I’ve already shared with a few friends and family.
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- markhall 8y agoLove it - good work. For me, this will serve as a nice shift from YT fitness content to more written content. I like the idea of creating community around it, whereas YT or IG is more transient.
- penetrarthur 8y agoThere is a fitness related website I used to read a lot - http://www.ergo-log.com/ http://www.ergo-log.com/ You can post some stuff from there while more people haven't shown up.
- octygen 8y agoI think this is a great idea - only thing missing is the thing that makes HN HN: discussions! Without that it seems just like an RSS feed. Also, groupings like Ask HN or Show HN. A lot of fitness/nutrition stuff is controversial and the discussions help separate the chaff. The design is good enough... I guess it's not optimized but it's by no means a deal-breaker. I'm sure it can be optimized as you go.
- ropable 8y agoOP: disregard all the tangential comments about JS for now. This is great.
- sdsk8 8y agoAll these toxic comments are the reason that i don't have the courage to engage and post more links here.
- qwerty456127 8y agoI'm very interested! Hopefully it is going to live and get regular updates. Nevertheless the HN UI feels better. And where are the discussions on SN?
- qnsi 8y ago"Commenting is definitely the next functionality we are going to add."
- qwerty456127 8y agoThanks. Excuse me. But comments are a very important part of the concept - discussions happen to be incredibly interesting on HN, it feels like I've probably learnt more useful stuff from the comments than from the actual news here.
- devnullard 8y agoi like it
- somada141 8y agoAny plans to include an RSS feed?