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This comment is strangely defensive (are you a doctor?). I’ve had to deal with all kinds of issues over past decades and the “doctors know little about food” hy

This comment is strangely defensive (are you a doctor?). I’ve had to deal with all kinds of issues over past decades and the “doctors know little about food” hypothesis is 100% true in my case. Without getting into too much detail looking back over past dozen doctors or so maybe 1 focused on factors related to nutritional effects for causes/cures of conditions i was dealing with. And knowing what i know now, nutrition was more effective in treatment/prevention than anything they prescribed. It almost seems to me like they follow a manual that treats symptoms and when-in-doubt-do-surgery type solutions.

jshowa3 8y ago
Most doctors recommend changing diet to aleviate symptoms. Its just that most people don't do it. When you say "nutrition was more effective in treatment/prevention than anything prescribed and stating 1 focused on that" I call bullshit. Its just a known fact that diet changes can alleviate issues so its pretty much a given but its not going to alleviate the issues right away (in most instances) which is the doctors primary concern. So they often prescribed medicine to do just this. If you need a doctor to explicitly mention to you that good nutrition will improve your health, then I'd suggest being a little more perceptive. But case in point, every doctor I've met has recommended diet changes to alleviate my symptoms.
- SonicSoul 8y ago
  > If you need a doctor to explicitly mention to you that good nutrition will improve your health, then I'd suggest being a little more perceptive huh? the point was made about their in depth understanding of impact of specific nutrition. not that "good diet is important" generality. and I am being "a little more perceptive" by doing a decade of my own research. not sure why that comment was necessary or what it has to do with my point
  - jshowa3 8y ago
    By good diet, I mean higher intake in fruits and vegetables, moderate intake in meats. Stay away from high processed foods with excessive sugar, fat, and sodium. It shouldn't take a decade of research to figure that out unless your diet is completely strict due to specific ailments.
    - SonicSoul 8y ago
      By good diet, I mean higher intake in fruits and vegetables, moderate intake in meats. this is a common truism that may or may not be beneficial to any one individual. it has nothing to do with understanding of nutrition as pertaining to treating specific health issues. it's like saying, "exercise and sleep good". while this is true in most cases, has nothing to do with original point "Most doctors know very little about what food does to the body."
      - tzjmetron 8y ago
        Precisely.
      - jshowa3 8y ago
        No, but what's good for the gander is usually good for the goose (I know its a rephrasing of the original). That's how we get effective medicine and built models of understanding. While individual factors are prevalent, they usually don't cause as much deviation from the overarching model. For example, higher intake in fruits and vegetables is a practical step, easily understood, and well studied to help reduce meat related illnesses like heart disease and CVD. While the mechanisms aren't well understood, that doesn't preclude the data.

jshowa3 8y ago

Most doctors recommend changing diet to aleviate symptoms. Its just that most people don't do it. When you say "nutrition was more effective in treatment/prevention than anything prescribed and stating 1 focused on that" I call bullshit. Its just a known fact that diet changes can alleviate issues so its pretty much a given but its not going to alleviate the issues right away (in most instances) which is the doctors primary concern. So they often prescribed medicine to do just this. If you need a doctor to explicitly mention to you that good nutrition will improve your health, then I'd suggest being a little more perceptive. But case in point, every doctor I've met has recommended diet changes to alleviate my symptoms.

SonicSoul 8y ago
> If you need a doctor to explicitly mention to you that good nutrition will improve your health, then I'd suggest being a little more perceptive huh? the point was made about their in depth understanding of impact of specific nutrition. not that "good diet is important" generality. and I am being "a little more perceptive" by doing a decade of my own research. not sure why that comment was necessary or what it has to do with my point
- jshowa3 8y ago
  By good diet, I mean higher intake in fruits and vegetables, moderate intake in meats. Stay away from high processed foods with excessive sugar, fat, and sodium. It shouldn't take a decade of research to figure that out unless your diet is completely strict due to specific ailments.
  - SonicSoul 8y ago
    By good diet, I mean higher intake in fruits and vegetables, moderate intake in meats. this is a common truism that may or may not be beneficial to any one individual. it has nothing to do with understanding of nutrition as pertaining to treating specific health issues. it's like saying, "exercise and sleep good". while this is true in most cases, has nothing to do with original point "Most doctors know very little about what food does to the body."
    - tzjmetron 8y ago
      Precisely.
    - jshowa3 8y ago
      No, but what's good for the gander is usually good for the goose (I know its a rephrasing of the original). That's how we get effective medicine and built models of understanding. While individual factors are prevalent, they usually don't cause as much deviation from the overarching model. For example, higher intake in fruits and vegetables is a practical step, easily understood, and well studied to help reduce meat related illnesses like heart disease and CVD. While the mechanisms aren't well understood, that doesn't preclude the data.