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I don't think that anyone here was saying blue collar workers should not get more that $20. And relatively speaking IT/Engineering professions are paid a lot

I don't think that anyone here was saying blue collar workers should not get more that $20. And relatively speaking IT/Engineering professions are paid a lot less (and have less status) than say lawyers and other equivalent professions.

jgh 8y ago
The comment this person was replying to seems to be saying exactly that....
ForHackernews 8y ago
IT/software development is not a "profession". Real professionals have autonomy and higher obligations than to their employer. They subscribe to a code of professional ethics, and they have personal liability at stake in their conduct at work. Good lawyers or accountants will not commit professional malpractice just because a client tells them to. In contrast, software flunkies will build whatever unethical features they're paid to. Software devs are hired hands who are play-acting as professionals because of their status anxiety.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  "Good lawyers or accountants will not commit professional malpractice just because a client tells them to. " It seems to me that a lot of corporate lawyers behave more like hired hitmen who will do pretty much anything for their clients. It doesn't feel like they don't subscribe to any ethical code other than trying to get away with whatever the law may allow.
  - walshemj 8y ago
    A lot of President Trumps seem to be doing that.
- AlexTWithBeard 8y ago
  IT/software development is a profession. IT engineers are investing a lot of time and money in growing their skills and most of them are rightfully proud of what they do.
  - ionised 8y ago
    It is a 'profession' as in occupation, sure, but it is not a Profession like a doctor or (real) engineer.
    - walshemj 8y ago
      cite please you can get your CE status an I am a Junior Mech Engineer
- walshemj 8y ago
  Speak for yourself mate also I thought we where supposed to be civil on here and not denigrate others? Please do not tell me I am not a "Fucking Professional" if you don't mind. And by your argument I am more a professional that 90% of FANG engineers as I do have some Mech Eng.

jgh 8y ago

The comment this person was replying to seems to be saying exactly that....

ForHackernews 8y ago

IT/software development is not a "profession". Real professionals have autonomy and higher obligations than to their employer. They subscribe to a code of professional ethics, and they have personal liability at stake in their conduct at work. Good lawyers or accountants will not commit professional malpractice just because a client tells them to. In contrast, software flunkies will build whatever unethical features they're paid to. Software devs are hired hands who are play-acting as professionals because of their status anxiety.

maxxxxx 8y ago
"Good lawyers or accountants will not commit professional malpractice just because a client tells them to. " It seems to me that a lot of corporate lawyers behave more like hired hitmen who will do pretty much anything for their clients. It doesn't feel like they don't subscribe to any ethical code other than trying to get away with whatever the law may allow.
- walshemj 8y ago
  A lot of President Trumps seem to be doing that.
AlexTWithBeard 8y ago
IT/software development is a profession. IT engineers are investing a lot of time and money in growing their skills and most of them are rightfully proud of what they do.
- ionised 8y ago
  It is a 'profession' as in occupation, sure, but it is not a Profession like a doctor or (real) engineer.
  - walshemj 8y ago
    cite please you can get your CE status an I am a Junior Mech Engineer
walshemj 8y ago
Speak for yourself mate also I thought we where supposed to be civil on here and not denigrate others? Please do not tell me I am not a "Fucking Professional" if you don't mind. And by your argument I am more a professional that 90% of FANG engineers as I do have some Mech Eng.