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> Before you put US on the same pedestal of morality as China, you must equate them on apples to apples basis. I think the mistake you make here is that we're
by AsyncAwait 8y ago
> Before you put US on the same pedestal of morality as China, you must equate them on apples to apples basis.
I think the mistake you make here is that we're talking about China's interaction vs the rest of the world and comparing that to U.S. interaction vs the rest of the world, which is more important to many than what is done domestically, because most of the people on here aren't in China, but the U.S. interference affects them even if they're not in the U.S., which is mostly not true for China.
How many coups has China been involved in as compared to the U.S. for example? Because these affect people on the other end of the globe from the U.S.
Why was there a military-style raid on Kim Dotcom in NZ, for something that is possibly a crime in the U.S.?
Why was there pressure put on Sweden to prosecute TPB from the U.S. side?
How come the U.S. claims to believe in the free market, but when a Chinese firm gets competitive there, they try to block them?
How come U.S. feels entitled to bomb in foreign territory, where they were not invited by the local government? Without UN approval at that?
How come U.S. feels entitled to bully other nations at the UN to vote their way on Palestine?
How come is it OK for the U.S. to attack a country that did not attack them?
How is it OK to go to war on a completely false pretext?
How is it OK for the U.S. to use chemical weapons?
How is it legal for the U.S. to commit terrorist acts in other countries?
How is it OK for the U.S. to tell other countries that they can't have nuclear weapons even as the U.S. is the only country to ever use the in war?
How is it moral for the U.S. to block civilian and medical goods, starve a country and help commit war crimes?
There are plenty of more local issues too, like the War on Drugs, the targeting of minority communities, the infiltration of civil rights groups, the jailing of whistleblowers and intimidation of journalists etc. but the above affects much of the world in some way or another.
This is why U.S. behavior is seen as such a problem outside its own borders. China has nowhere near the worldwide reach the U.S. does.
- zaptheimpaler 8y agoYes, thank you for putting it so clearly. I’m concerned about how US/China affect the REST OF US (WE EXIST, THERE ARE 5 BILLION OF US, HELLO THERE!), so arguments about how well the US treats its own people or how poorly China treats theirs are completely immaterial to me. Its about how those countries operate outside their own borders.