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I'm just speculating here, but I don't think the Norwegian navy actually operates as if it could potentially be in combat situation at any time. Not sure if wh

I'm just speculating here, but I don't think the Norwegian navy actually operates as if it could potentially be in combat situation at any time. Not sure if what I'm saying is clear (and I don't have the correct terms, especially in English) but on French navy ships and I guess on US ships as well, the general ambiance is that the situation is always serious and whatever operation is done as if it was in the context of combat. I have been on a few ships of "less relevant" navies (no offense but the Australian or South African navies just see less action) and there the whole crew was usually more relaxed and would behave more casually with regards to unforeseen events. This is not criticism, but I think frequent action does help with keeping discipline, while infrequent action makes it easy to slip into more comfortable routine.

angry_octet 8y ago
This is an epically uninformed comment.
- seszett 8y ago
  It's just my observation from my time aboard ships of the French, Australian and South African navies in the South Indian Ocean. I didn't work as closely with the men aboard the South African and Australian ships, so maybe I got a wrong idea there.
dotancohen 8y ago
A few years ago in Tromso I had the pleasure of talking with a Norwegian infantry soldier. Having served in Israeli infantry it was very interesting to both of us to share what we could. Note that this was 2013, before Russia invaded Ukraine. From what I gathered, the Norwegian army (don't know about navy) is on constant alert for a Russian attack. Norway is very oil rich, and sits right at Russia's border. Russia outguns and outnumbers Norway, and they have experience in similar climates. From what I gathered, the Norwegian military is about as vigilant as I felt the Israeli military is. They may not be attacked constantly as we are, but they know that a single attack could end their way of life in minutes.
- Bendingo 8y ago
  > constant alert for a Russian attack. Norway is very oil rich Ridiculous scaremongering. Implying that Russia would invade Norway for it's oil, when Russia has 13 times more proven oil reserves than Norway [1] Rather than highjacking a thread about Norwegian naval accident, in order to disparage Russia, perhaps you'd simply like to claim that Russians hacked Helge Ingstad ? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oi...

angry_octet 8y ago

This is an epically uninformed comment.

seszett 8y ago
It's just my observation from my time aboard ships of the French, Australian and South African navies in the South Indian Ocean. I didn't work as closely with the men aboard the South African and Australian ships, so maybe I got a wrong idea there.

dotancohen 8y ago

A few years ago in Tromso I had the pleasure of talking with a Norwegian infantry soldier. Having served in Israeli infantry it was very interesting to both of us to share what we could. Note that this was 2013, before Russia invaded Ukraine. From what I gathered, the Norwegian army (don't know about navy) is on constant alert for a Russian attack. Norway is very oil rich, and sits right at Russia's border. Russia outguns and outnumbers Norway, and they have experience in similar climates. From what I gathered, the Norwegian military is about as vigilant as I felt the Israeli military is. They may not be attacked constantly as we are, but they know that a single attack could end their way of life in minutes.

Bendingo 8y ago
> constant alert for a Russian attack. Norway is very oil rich Ridiculous scaremongering. Implying that Russia would invade Norway for it's oil, when Russia has 13 times more proven oil reserves than Norway [1] Rather than highjacking a thread about Norwegian naval accident, in order to disparage Russia, perhaps you'd simply like to claim that Russians hacked Helge Ingstad ? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oi...