> I can't believe someone actually bought that line. I didn't buy the line, but be realistic, what percentage of Australians could even make a coherent argumen

> I can't believe someone actually bought that line. I didn't buy the line, but be realistic, what percentage of Australians could even make a coherent argument against this bill? It's a vanishingly small percentage. I watched some bullshit morning TV segment on this where an EFF spokesperson gave some sound arguments wrt this bills overreach potential and downsides, the opposing argument? "But who can argue against ISIS using whats app?". Boom, argument shut down and the presenter sided with the ISIS argument. It's sad, it sucks, but unfortunately most people are not even able to comprehend the anit-argument because terrorists=bad. > Is that how weak of a party they are, that they can't find real arguments against what that is a baseless accusation meant to cause misdirection? Yes this is modern politics. What is your solution? I don't have one. >One more thing, Australia just became the first western country to allow encryption backdoors, something all security experts have been warning is a very bad, terrible idea, Australia is a piddling little country that is a test bed for the 5eyes. We think we're globally important, but that is simple self-delusion. >But again, their excuses make no sense, especially in the light of them actually fighting Liberals on disallowing the powers to be used against politicians. Yes, absolutely. It makes me sick that there is a provision within the bill to exclude parliamentarians. There is a deep sickness in our democratic process, but how do we expect to fix it?