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Serverless functions are a terrible idea. Way too restrictive and proprietary. Kubernetes is the future. Amazon throwing money behind the Serverless trend is on

Serverless functions are a terrible idea. Way too restrictive and proprietary. Kubernetes is the future. Amazon throwing money behind the Serverless trend is only delaying the inevitable universal success of a standardized, open source container orchestration platform.

jively 8y ago
It’s based on Knative I think, so this is an open source, kubernetes-based alternative tied into GitLab.
jerluc 8y ago
I don't understand, half of this announcement refers to the fact that this new feature is built upon Knative: > It leverages Knative, which enables autoscaling down to zero and backup to run serverless workloads on Kubernetes. So what are you referring to?
- dsumenkovic 8y ago
  Hey, Community Advocate from GitLab here. Sorry for the confusion with the words. We actually meant "back up" which has a bit different context. Fixing that in https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/merge_requests/17295 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/merge_requests/...
rolandboon 8y ago
Your argument against serverless functions holds for AWS Lambda, but this Gitlab feature is based on Knative. That's an open source serverless platform based on Kubernetes. I think all money Amazon is throwing at serverless is to build a foundation to ultimately transform all their "managed" services into a serverless form. They already released serverless RDS (https://aws.amazon.com/rds/aurora/serverless/ https://aws.amazon.com/rds/aurora/serverless/).
- jondubois 8y ago
  Good to know that it's open source. I should have looked it up first. My understanding of Serverless was that it was synonymous with 'Functions as a Service'. What Knative seems to be doing is more like 'Backend as a Service'. I guess it's good to know that these two very different approaches are now both labeling themselves as 'Serverless'. I guess Knative is just hitchhiking on top of Amazon's marketing success around the 'Serverless' term.
- syntheticcdo 8y ago
  I'm fairly certain that under the hood serverless RDS is just "intelligently and dynamically adjusting the instance type with zero downtime" though, not really technically interesting compared to Lambda-serverless.

jively 8y ago

It’s based on Knative I think, so this is an open source, kubernetes-based alternative tied into GitLab.

jerluc 8y ago

I don't understand, half of this announcement refers to the fact that this new feature is built upon Knative: > It leverages Knative, which enables autoscaling down to zero and backup to run serverless workloads on Kubernetes. So what are you referring to?

dsumenkovic 8y ago
Hey, Community Advocate from GitLab here. Sorry for the confusion with the words. We actually meant "back up" which has a bit different context. Fixing that in https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/merge_requests/17295 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/merge_requests/...

rolandboon 8y ago

Your argument against serverless functions holds for AWS Lambda, but this Gitlab feature is based on Knative. That's an open source serverless platform based on Kubernetes. I think all money Amazon is throwing at serverless is to build a foundation to ultimately transform all their "managed" services into a serverless form. They already released serverless RDS (https://aws.amazon.com/rds/aurora/serverless/ https://aws.amazon.com/rds/aurora/serverless/).

jondubois 8y ago
Good to know that it's open source. I should have looked it up first. My understanding of Serverless was that it was synonymous with 'Functions as a Service'. What Knative seems to be doing is more like 'Backend as a Service'. I guess it's good to know that these two very different approaches are now both labeling themselves as 'Serverless'. I guess Knative is just hitchhiking on top of Amazon's marketing success around the 'Serverless' term.
syntheticcdo 8y ago
I'm fairly certain that under the hood serverless RDS is just "intelligently and dynamically adjusting the instance type with zero downtime" though, not really technically interesting compared to Lambda-serverless.