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> The study addressed this. There are sexist gender roles at play even among single parents, potentially. (To wit, you didn’t lament the rise of “single fatherh

> The study addressed this. There are sexist gender roles at play even among single parents, potentially. (To wit, you didn’t lament the rise of “single fatherhood.”) Isn't that mostly caused by a sexist judiciary. I know that as a man in America in the event of a divorce it is very unlikely that I would get majority custody of my children. From what I've seen it takes a lot for a woman to lose custody if she wants it.

UncleMeat 8y ago
The custody gap is largely caused by different desires about custody. This is still an issue, but it is the same issue as the wage gap due to different career choices. When men and women fight for custody equally, they tend to get joint custody.
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- yourmom69 8y ago
  Yeah, fathers may get joint custody, but they aren't getting equal custody. Typically this is every other weekend and every other major holiday. Additionally, fathers are typically still required to pay child support with 50/50 custody. Maybe single fathers wouldn't need to work such long hours if they weren't forced to provide their ex-wives with a UBI.
- marchenko 8y ago
  I agree that there is an interesting and potentially informative symmetry between the custody gap and the wage gap. They both describe situations that different groups find deeply unfair, but can be ascribed in large part to "different choices". It might be fruitful to take a more holistic view to understand why the "individual choice" explanation is so unsatisfying to many.
marchenko 8y ago
When I last looked it up, the US data indicated that 91% of custody cases are decided without recourse to the family court system. Of the 9% that go to family court system, 5% are decided after a custody evaluation, and the remaining 4% go to trial. Only 11% of custody cases go to mediation. It appears that the majority of custody decisions are made by the parents themselves, without recourse to the court, or even to an external mediator. If the judiciary is causing a disparity in custody outcomes, it must be indirectly.
- x220 8y ago
  >the US data indicated that 91% of custody cases are decided without recourse to the family court system The men know that if it does go to trial, it will cost a lot of money and they will probably still lose the kids. There's no point in playing a rigged game.

UncleMeat 8y ago

The custody gap is largely caused by different desires about custody. This is still an issue, but it is the same issue as the wage gap due to different career choices. When men and women fight for custody equally, they tend to get joint custody.

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yourmom69 8y ago
Yeah, fathers may get joint custody, but they aren't getting equal custody. Typically this is every other weekend and every other major holiday. Additionally, fathers are typically still required to pay child support with 50/50 custody. Maybe single fathers wouldn't need to work such long hours if they weren't forced to provide their ex-wives with a UBI.
marchenko 8y ago
I agree that there is an interesting and potentially informative symmetry between the custody gap and the wage gap. They both describe situations that different groups find deeply unfair, but can be ascribed in large part to "different choices". It might be fruitful to take a more holistic view to understand why the "individual choice" explanation is so unsatisfying to many.

marchenko 8y ago

When I last looked it up, the US data indicated that 91% of custody cases are decided without recourse to the family court system. Of the 9% that go to family court system, 5% are decided after a custody evaluation, and the remaining 4% go to trial. Only 11% of custody cases go to mediation. It appears that the majority of custody decisions are made by the parents themselves, without recourse to the court, or even to an external mediator. If the judiciary is causing a disparity in custody outcomes, it must be indirectly.

x220 8y ago
>the US data indicated that 91% of custody cases are decided without recourse to the family court system The men know that if it does go to trial, it will cost a lot of money and they will probably still lose the kids. There's no point in playing a rigged game.