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I just pointed out how the UK does not have cards up it’s sleeve. But as you seem to know something I don’t, please enlighten me - any examples of the UK gover

I just pointed out how the UK does not have cards up it’s sleeve. But as you seem to know something I don’t, please enlighten me - any examples of the UK government actually censoring games?

sbhn 8y ago
Games are media. Even the app store has censorship requirements that you must follow. You can lobby to your government to introduce more stringent cencorship laws on Chinese exports to your country if you want, because, well, its just not fair that chinese has inport laws, just like many other countries.
- johneth 8y ago
  Thank you for not answering my question.
  - sbhn 8y ago
    my first comment illuded to the eagerness of the hacker news community to engage in china bashing. I also pointed out that censorship is considered during the design process. Here is a list of games we are allowed to know about before PEGI was enforced. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games Games you are not allowed to know about would be sympathic to the cause of afghans, iranians, iraqis, syrians and many more things that sell newspapers and political elections.
    - johneth 8y ago
      Pointing out hypocrisy in the Chinese government's policies (competition, human rights, etc.) is not 'bashing'. Just as pointing out those things in other governments is not X bashing. The reason it seems to occur more often with China is because China is the rising power, and probably the power of the 21st century - its actions will be scrutinised because its actions have major consequences for the rest of the world. I will happily 'bash' my (UK) government over a whole range of things. Censorship in creative industries is not one of them. China has a long history of creative suppression and censorship. I would assume that games sympathetic to the causes of Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, and others are not 'banned' or creatively stifled, just that there is no commercial interest or reward in such games. This is not censorship by a government. There's nothing stopping anybody making games on such subjects. That's the difference between China (and other similar governments) and, for lack of a better category, western governments. China's government will intervene in creative processes, western governments will not.
      - sbhn 8y ago
        China is no different than england. Anybody on the raw end of English foreign policy knows that.
        johneth 8y ago
        Errm, OK. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about - government interference in creative industries. It seems you just have an axe to grind.

I just pointed out how the UK does not have cards up it’s sleeve. But as you seem to know something I don’t, please enlighten me - any examples of the UK government actually censoring games?

sbhn 8y ago

Games are media. Even the app store has censorship requirements that you must follow. You can lobby to your government to introduce more stringent cencorship laws on Chinese exports to your country if you want, because, well, its just not fair that chinese has inport laws, just like many other countries.

johneth 8y ago
Thank you for not answering my question.
- sbhn 8y ago
  my first comment illuded to the eagerness of the hacker news community to engage in china bashing. I also pointed out that censorship is considered during the design process. Here is a list of games we are allowed to know about before PEGI was enforced. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games Games you are not allowed to know about would be sympathic to the cause of afghans, iranians, iraqis, syrians and many more things that sell newspapers and political elections.
  - johneth 8y ago
    Pointing out hypocrisy in the Chinese government's policies (competition, human rights, etc.) is not 'bashing'. Just as pointing out those things in other governments is not X bashing. The reason it seems to occur more often with China is because China is the rising power, and probably the power of the 21st century - its actions will be scrutinised because its actions have major consequences for the rest of the world. I will happily 'bash' my (UK) government over a whole range of things. Censorship in creative industries is not one of them. China has a long history of creative suppression and censorship. I would assume that games sympathetic to the causes of Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, and others are not 'banned' or creatively stifled, just that there is no commercial interest or reward in such games. This is not censorship by a government. There's nothing stopping anybody making games on such subjects. That's the difference between China (and other similar governments) and, for lack of a better category, western governments. China's government will intervene in creative processes, western governments will not.
    - sbhn 8y ago
      China is no different than england. Anybody on the raw end of English foreign policy knows that.
      - johneth 8y ago
        Errm, OK. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about - government interference in creative industries. It seems you just have an axe to grind.