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Well, seems to me the reason you'd think that is because you're stupid. It's not your fault - you were probably just treated roughly as an infant. Wait, what's

by enko 16y ago

Well, seems to me the reason you'd think that is because you're stupid. It's not your fault - you were probably just treated roughly as an infant. Wait, what's that, you don't think casting aspersions on someone's mental capacity is a valid counterargument? Well then.

almost 16y ago
It seems perfectly reasonable to consider madness when discussing the possible reasons for that speech having been made. It's not like the parent comment is trying to make a counterargument against anything, he's just wondering what's happening here.
gjm11 16y ago
I wasn't offering a counterargument. I was taking it as read that what he says probably isn't true because (1) it sounds very very implausible and (2) if you read what he actually said, it looks like the kind of thing deranged people say; and offering an explanation for how it might be that he came to say such strange things. (There is further reason for suspecting LJoB's mental state; his most recent other speech in the Lords is pretty weird too.) If you think that my suggestion that LJoB might be off his head is so ridiculous that no sensible person would make it, or that the way I expressed it is so incoherent that no normal person would write what I did, and if you happen to want explanations, then you absolutely should be considering the possibility that I'm stupid or crazy. [EDITED to add: Especially if you know that in fact I was treated roughly as an infant in a way that would tend to damage my brain. Which, as it happens, doesn't appear to be the case.]
- enko 16y ago
  His speeches may be weird, but he has an eloquence and a rhetorical flair which seem most at odds with any experience I have had with stroke-sufferers, admittedly not a lot. Well, I guess I disagree with how implausible it sounds. I suppose not too many foundations are offering billions for anyone who asks, obligation free. Then again, I do wonder what a lot of the money is doing around the world. There are hundreds of individuals and organisations capable of making the offers referenced in the speech. It just doesn't immediately ring of "CRAZY" to me.

by enko 16y ago

almost 16y ago

It seems perfectly reasonable to consider madness when discussing the possible reasons for that speech having been made. It's not like the parent comment is trying to make a counterargument against anything, he's just wondering what's happening here.

gjm11 16y ago

I wasn't offering a counterargument. I was taking it as read that what he says probably isn't true because (1) it sounds very very implausible and (2) if you read what he actually said, it looks like the kind of thing deranged people say; and offering an explanation for how it might be that he came to say such strange things. (There is further reason for suspecting LJoB's mental state; his most recent other speech in the Lords is pretty weird too.) If you think that my suggestion that LJoB might be off his head is so ridiculous that no sensible person would make it, or that the way I expressed it is so incoherent that no normal person would write what I did, and if you happen to want explanations, then you absolutely should be considering the possibility that I'm stupid or crazy. [EDITED to add: Especially if you know that in fact I was treated roughly as an infant in a way that would tend to damage my brain. Which, as it happens, doesn't appear to be the case.]

enko 16y ago
His speeches may be weird, but he has an eloquence and a rhetorical flair which seem most at odds with any experience I have had with stroke-sufferers, admittedly not a lot. Well, I guess I disagree with how implausible it sounds. I suppose not too many foundations are offering billions for anyone who asks, obligation free. Then again, I do wonder what a lot of the money is doing around the world. There are hundreds of individuals and organisations capable of making the offers referenced in the speech. It just doesn't immediately ring of "CRAZY" to me.