Interesting. Which framework(s) were these teams using? How large were they? xdebug is not always the most straightforward thing to set up. I don't tend to bot

Interesting. Which framework(s) were these teams using? How large were they? xdebug is not always the most straightforward thing to set up. I don't tend to bother with it unless I am doing a lot of PHP development (which fortunately has not been the case recently). I've also had less cause to use it since the introduction of the Psy shell. It's still something that I would consider an essential tool, and I do wonder at the circumstances which allowed these teams to be able to get by without it, but the experience could maybe be a bit smoother. I did not think that the ST2/ST3 or Atom integration was that great; the best experience I had was with NetBeans, but NetBeans is otherwise pretty clunky. Presumably your mileage varies somewhat.