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> Note that currently web browser developers are implementing a fullscreen mode with keyboard lock that is much harder to leave because it blocks most of system

> Note that currently web browser developers are implementing a fullscreen mode with keyboard lock that is much harder to leave because it blocks most of system key combinations. The only keys that will still work are Ctrl + Alt + Del or holding an Esc for two seconds. And as I assume you cannot leave it using mouse or touchpad. What possible justification is there for this? Looks like this can become an ideal way to 'force' unsuspecting users to interact with a malicious site...

franga2000 8y ago
> What possible justification is there for this? If I had to guess, I'd say games. Browser games just refuse to die. I thought they'd die with Java applets, then with Flash, but they just keep coming back...
- crysin 8y ago
  Why the language of refuse? Are you inferring there is inherently something bad about games on the web?
  - franga2000 8y ago
    No, that's just my opinion. One of the main reasons wouldn't like to see browser games come back is that they are usually basically 100% tied to a server. They're not like standard games, where even if the servers go down, you still have the files and can either keep playing offline or even hack together a server implementation. Once the server goes down, that game is gone[1]. Not to mention, that if an industry were to arise around web-based games, most would probably either be the "free but pay-to-win and with ads" kind, or on Netflix-style subscription platforms where you don't actually own anything and you're just paying for the access. [1] - not saying it's impossible to preserve it, just that it's not preserved by default, like a locally-installed game is
    - vorpalhex 8y ago
      This is no longer true for even locally installed games. If Ubisoft's uPlay disappears tomorrow, your locally installed games are just useless bits. Many very nice web based games exist, and many can be saved to disk and launched from a local html file just fine. Many games target the web browser because it's easily cross platform, requires no install, and is easy to convince new players to give it a try.
- gambler 8y ago
  There is no good reason for any website to be able to block Esc key from exiting fullscreen mode, games or no games.
codedokode 8y ago
The spec [1] says: > Richly interactive web sites, games and remote desktop/application streaming experiences want to provide an immersive, full screen experience. To accomplish this, sites need access to special keys and keyboard shortcuts while they are in full screen mode so that they can be used for navigation, menus or gaming functionality. But I guess it will be used by scammers as well. [1] https://w3c.github.io/keyboard-lock/#introduction https://w3c.github.io/keyboard-lock/#introduction
AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
People increasingly trying to turn the web into an application layer instead of writing actual applications.

franga2000 8y ago

> What possible justification is there for this? If I had to guess, I'd say games. Browser games just refuse to die. I thought they'd die with Java applets, then with Flash, but they just keep coming back...

crysin 8y ago
Why the language of refuse? Are you inferring there is inherently something bad about games on the web?
- franga2000 8y ago
  No, that's just my opinion. One of the main reasons wouldn't like to see browser games come back is that they are usually basically 100% tied to a server. They're not like standard games, where even if the servers go down, you still have the files and can either keep playing offline or even hack together a server implementation. Once the server goes down, that game is gone[1]. Not to mention, that if an industry were to arise around web-based games, most would probably either be the "free but pay-to-win and with ads" kind, or on Netflix-style subscription platforms where you don't actually own anything and you're just paying for the access. [1] - not saying it's impossible to preserve it, just that it's not preserved by default, like a locally-installed game is
  - vorpalhex 8y ago
    This is no longer true for even locally installed games. If Ubisoft's uPlay disappears tomorrow, your locally installed games are just useless bits. Many very nice web based games exist, and many can be saved to disk and launched from a local html file just fine. Many games target the web browser because it's easily cross platform, requires no install, and is easy to convince new players to give it a try.
gambler 8y ago
There is no good reason for any website to be able to block Esc key from exiting fullscreen mode, games or no games.

codedokode 8y ago

The spec [1] says: > Richly interactive web sites, games and remote desktop/application streaming experiences want to provide an immersive, full screen experience. To accomplish this, sites need access to special keys and keyboard shortcuts while they are in full screen mode so that they can be used for navigation, menus or gaming functionality. But I guess it will be used by scammers as well. [1] https://w3c.github.io/keyboard-lock/#introduction https://w3c.github.io/keyboard-lock/#introduction

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago

People increasingly trying to turn the web into an application layer instead of writing actual applications.