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I found fingerprints and dust on my recent Apple MacBook Pro purchase, underneath the peel-off wrapper. It was not a refurb, was bought originally from Apple a

by mmjaa 8y ago

I found fingerprints and dust on my recent Apple MacBook Pro purchase, underneath the peel-off wrapper. It was not a refurb, was bought originally from Apple and it did indeed have a 2-day wait in a 'shipping hub'. I'm fairly sure this machine has an implant - or at least, someone really goofed at Apples' manufacturing.

kaybe 8y ago
So did you do anything about it?
- mmjaa 8y ago
  What can we do? Send it back to Apple? Still trying to determine if we should.
  - kaybe 8y ago
    Either that or send it on to an interested party, or have a very close look yourself I guess. AFAIK there are people out there very interested in what you might have there.
sigstoat 8y ago
if you and your employer are concerned about this, why are you mail ordering laptops instead of buying them in cash at the store?
- Ntrails 8y ago
  After purchase is signed off, go to a random store from 3 ascribed by independent a via dice roll observed by parties a b and c, travel there, where independent b will choose from 3 equivalent items at random and purchase them for the original requester.
  - hnbroseph 8y ago
    and whence cometh the dice, good sir?
- xfitm3 8y ago
  This only works if you need a device that’s in stock. Any custom spec’d machine requires it to be built and shipped. I’ve never tried, but I don’t think that can be done anonymously.
- mmjaa 8y ago
  Its the only way to get the keyboard configuration we want.
  - sigstoat 8y ago
    i find it difficult to take "we're worried about state-level actors compromising our hardware, but we're unwilling to use a standard keyboard layout to avoid it" very seriously.
    - mmjaa 8y ago
      Its easy, all you have to think is "what happened first - did they order the keyboard and then discover evidence it might have been tampered with, or did they have the concern, overlook it because 'need a good keyboard, who cares about big brother', and then place the order regardless?" D'uh .. Its the first option. We didn't think about it much, ordered the keyboard config we wanted, thought about the interception/implant issue, paid close attention to the wrapping upon receipt of the laptop, decided that we'd probably been intercepted along the way somewhere ..

by mmjaa 8y ago

kaybe 8y ago

So did you do anything about it?

mmjaa 8y ago
What can we do? Send it back to Apple? Still trying to determine if we should.
- kaybe 8y ago
  Either that or send it on to an interested party, or have a very close look yourself I guess. AFAIK there are people out there very interested in what you might have there.

sigstoat 8y ago

if you and your employer are concerned about this, why are you mail ordering laptops instead of buying them in cash at the store?

Ntrails 8y ago
After purchase is signed off, go to a random store from 3 ascribed by independent a via dice roll observed by parties a b and c, travel there, where independent b will choose from 3 equivalent items at random and purchase them for the original requester.
- hnbroseph 8y ago
  and whence cometh the dice, good sir?
xfitm3 8y ago
This only works if you need a device that’s in stock. Any custom spec’d machine requires it to be built and shipped. I’ve never tried, but I don’t think that can be done anonymously.
mmjaa 8y ago
Its the only way to get the keyboard configuration we want.
- sigstoat 8y ago
  i find it difficult to take "we're worried about state-level actors compromising our hardware, but we're unwilling to use a standard keyboard layout to avoid it" very seriously.
  - mmjaa 8y ago
    Its easy, all you have to think is "what happened first - did they order the keyboard and then discover evidence it might have been tampered with, or did they have the concern, overlook it because 'need a good keyboard, who cares about big brother', and then place the order regardless?" D'uh .. Its the first option. We didn't think about it much, ordered the keyboard config we wanted, thought about the interception/implant issue, paid close attention to the wrapping upon receipt of the laptop, decided that we'd probably been intercepted along the way somewhere ..