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> His sons, who worked for him, are dead—one hanged himself and the other died of cancer. Well that's fucked. The guy stole 19B, but is now serving a 150 yr pr

> His sons, who worked for him, are dead—one hanged himself and the other died of cancer. Well that's fucked. The guy stole 19B, but is now serving a 150 yr prison sentence and his family is dead. Was it worth it?

nerdponx 8y ago
For the kind of person who would steal all that money in the first place? It probably was worth it. How much do you think he really cares about his family?
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that all bad people are mustache-twirling stab-your-grandma-for-a-nickel types. There are evil bastards throughout history who loved their family and friends deeply. If you think this way, then you'll logically conclude that anyone who genuinely loves his family must be a decent guy who won't screw you over, and that's a very dangerous mistake.
projectramo 8y ago
His brother and niece (in compliance and legal) also worked there, if I recall. He did time. She was married to someone from the SEC the year before his arrest. Its all these weird coincidences that are so strange.
paulpauper 8y ago
the cancer death would have happened regardless
- mlrtime 8y ago
  That is impossible to know. (Hypothetical) How do we know the stress did not accelerate to the point of no return (I'm not a doctor).
belorn 8y ago
Also in the same paragraph. > Madoff’s wife, Ruth, is living in a rented home in Connecticut. The government allowed her to keep $2.5 million after Madoff’s plea. That whole paragraph felt so odd when I read it. Very callous mentioning of people hanging themselves and others dieing to cancer, and that the state apparently allowed his wife to keep $2.5 million of the stolen money. The whole thing sounds insane from a justice perspective.
- brohee 8y ago
  Part of the plea, it ended up saving the taxpayer money likely.
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  Plea deals always involve injustice, by their nature.

nerdponx 8y ago

For the kind of person who would steal all that money in the first place? It probably was worth it. How much do you think he really cares about his family?

PhasmaFelis 8y ago
A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that all bad people are mustache-twirling stab-your-grandma-for-a-nickel types. There are evil bastards throughout history who loved their family and friends deeply. If you think this way, then you'll logically conclude that anyone who genuinely loves his family must be a decent guy who won't screw you over, and that's a very dangerous mistake.

projectramo 8y ago

His brother and niece (in compliance and legal) also worked there, if I recall. He did time. She was married to someone from the SEC the year before his arrest. Its all these weird coincidences that are so strange.

paulpauper 8y ago

the cancer death would have happened regardless

mlrtime 8y ago
That is impossible to know. (Hypothetical) How do we know the stress did not accelerate to the point of no return (I'm not a doctor).

belorn 8y ago

Also in the same paragraph. > Madoff’s wife, Ruth, is living in a rented home in Connecticut. The government allowed her to keep $2.5 million after Madoff’s plea. That whole paragraph felt so odd when I read it. Very callous mentioning of people hanging themselves and others dieing to cancer, and that the state apparently allowed his wife to keep $2.5 million of the stolen money. The whole thing sounds insane from a justice perspective.

brohee 8y ago
Part of the plea, it ended up saving the taxpayer money likely.
erikpukinskis 8y ago
Plea deals always involve injustice, by their nature.