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The bigger problem is that a authentication dialog is a window modal, which makes the entire browser inoperative. If it wasn’t for this, you could simply close

The bigger problem is that a authentication dialog is a window modal, which makes the entire browser inoperative. If it wasn’t for this, you could simply close the tab with the malicious site. This broader issue is reported on the bug #123913, which is 17 years old. The bug is old enough to drive.

nolok 8y ago
> The bug is old enough to drive. Where I'm from it can't drive, but it's been old enough to drink for a while now !
- dagurp 8y ago
  Denmark?
  - nolok 8y ago
    France. We have no law about age of consumption but we have a law about a minimal age of buying; it has almost no sanction though and the worst you risk in spending a few hours or a night in a "drunken" cell at the police station. On the other hand we do have strong sanction for selling to someone under the legal age. About the age of buying it used to be 16 years old but the law was changed to put it at 18 for liquors and hard alcohol back in 2009, since then most maps you can find on the internet about drinking age often put us at 18 but in reality it's still 16 for wine/beer/cider/... The change was to fight whisky/vodka/rhum/... binge drinking by high schoolers. (driving age is 18, or 16 is you're accompanied by an adult and passed a specific kind of driving permit)
SilasX 8y ago
Not to defend Mozilla's inability to prioritize, but ... Isn't that a common issue across browsers? I know on iOS, I get burned by shady sites on Safari that do redirects and pop up a browser-level modal that somehow stops me from closing the tab until I turn off Javascript and restart the browser.
- st3fan 8y ago
  That must be on an older iOS version? Pretty sure that on recent versions the modal dialogs are actually not modal anymore and are rendered 'in content'. So you can always close the tab.
  - SilasX 8y ago
    11.2.1. But I guess in tech, that's the wild-west stone age where you couldn't expect a browser not to be taken over by a site ...
    - st3fan 8y ago
      Why the negativity? Software is fluid and never perfect. And specially the fight between browsers and malicious sites won't stop at any time ... At least they recognized the problem and acted on it.
      - SilasX 8y ago
        The fact that a modal could ever block my ability to close the tab was a hard mistake to make.
- orbital-decay 8y ago
  Ironically, I've dropped Chrome on Windows because of the very same issue several years ago. There were more than a few sites like this; the only way to close the tab was killing the entire browser with the task manager. I've been occasionally stumbling upon sites like this for a year and a half, and the bug hasn't been fixed this entire time. Then I switched to Firefox, which has a feature to bail out from the endless loop (the 'Prevent this site from creating additional dialogs' checkbox), and never looked back. So I guess there's more than one way to aggressively keep the tab open.

nolok 8y ago

> The bug is old enough to drive. Where I'm from it can't drive, but it's been old enough to drink for a while now !

dagurp 8y ago
Denmark?
- nolok 8y ago
  France. We have no law about age of consumption but we have a law about a minimal age of buying; it has almost no sanction though and the worst you risk in spending a few hours or a night in a "drunken" cell at the police station. On the other hand we do have strong sanction for selling to someone under the legal age. About the age of buying it used to be 16 years old but the law was changed to put it at 18 for liquors and hard alcohol back in 2009, since then most maps you can find on the internet about drinking age often put us at 18 but in reality it's still 16 for wine/beer/cider/... The change was to fight whisky/vodka/rhum/... binge drinking by high schoolers. (driving age is 18, or 16 is you're accompanied by an adult and passed a specific kind of driving permit)

SilasX 8y ago

Not to defend Mozilla's inability to prioritize, but ... Isn't that a common issue across browsers? I know on iOS, I get burned by shady sites on Safari that do redirects and pop up a browser-level modal that somehow stops me from closing the tab until I turn off Javascript and restart the browser.

st3fan 8y ago
That must be on an older iOS version? Pretty sure that on recent versions the modal dialogs are actually not modal anymore and are rendered 'in content'. So you can always close the tab.
- SilasX 8y ago
  11.2.1. But I guess in tech, that's the wild-west stone age where you couldn't expect a browser not to be taken over by a site ...
  - st3fan 8y ago
    Why the negativity? Software is fluid and never perfect. And specially the fight between browsers and malicious sites won't stop at any time ... At least they recognized the problem and acted on it.
    - SilasX 8y ago
      The fact that a modal could ever block my ability to close the tab was a hard mistake to make.
orbital-decay 8y ago
Ironically, I've dropped Chrome on Windows because of the very same issue several years ago. There were more than a few sites like this; the only way to close the tab was killing the entire browser with the task manager. I've been occasionally stumbling upon sites like this for a year and a half, and the bug hasn't been fixed this entire time. Then I switched to Firefox, which has a feature to bail out from the endless loop (the 'Prevent this site from creating additional dialogs' checkbox), and never looked back. So I guess there's more than one way to aggressively keep the tab open.