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Look I agree with you. Everyman should make their their own decisions and do what is right for them. However advertising has had a massive impact on how we see

Look I agree with you. Everyman should make their their own decisions and do what is right for them. However advertising has had a massive impact on how we see the world. You only need read about how de Beers the world's largest diamond producer changed our perception of diamonds [1]. There all manner of adverts designed to make you feel incomplete. I don't have links now but there have been a few stories here on HN which show what we regard as the norm now was nothing more than advertising campaign. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/02/how-an-ad-campaign-invented-the-diamond-engagement-ring/385376/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/02/ho...

golergka 8y ago
Yes, people try to manipulate you all the time. My point is - it's fair game. It's exactly the game that all of us are playing all the time, it's pretty fun, it's challenging, and I see no point in painting someone as immoral just because they're winning at it.
- anoncake 8y ago
  Not all of us play this "game". Most of us aren't psychopaths.
  - dsfyu404ed 8y ago
    But you have to coexist with everyone else in a society that finds advertising, manipulation (to an extent) and other things psychopaths excel at tolerable. There's a whole range of "bad" things that society finds tolerable (I'm talking in general, not specifically advertising or trying to manipulate people) and if you cannot stand one/many of those things then you're free to live in a log cabin in the woods. I'd love to not play the taxes game or put up with the paternalistic government I live under but it just so happens that it's a prerequisite to being part of society. I'm free to screw off to some log cabin in the woods but I'd rather live within society even if it had some problems.
    - anoncake 8y ago
      That does not make advertising and other manipulation less immoral. > and if you cannot stand one/many of those things then you're free to live in a log cabin in the woods. If you have nothing intelligent to contribute, don't post.

golergka 8y ago

Yes, people try to manipulate you all the time. My point is - it's fair game. It's exactly the game that all of us are playing all the time, it's pretty fun, it's challenging, and I see no point in painting someone as immoral just because they're winning at it.

anoncake 8y ago
Not all of us play this "game". Most of us aren't psychopaths.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  But you have to coexist with everyone else in a society that finds advertising, manipulation (to an extent) and other things psychopaths excel at tolerable. There's a whole range of "bad" things that society finds tolerable (I'm talking in general, not specifically advertising or trying to manipulate people) and if you cannot stand one/many of those things then you're free to live in a log cabin in the woods. I'd love to not play the taxes game or put up with the paternalistic government I live under but it just so happens that it's a prerequisite to being part of society. I'm free to screw off to some log cabin in the woods but I'd rather live within society even if it had some problems.
  - anoncake 8y ago
    That does not make advertising and other manipulation less immoral. > and if you cannot stand one/many of those things then you're free to live in a log cabin in the woods. If you have nothing intelligent to contribute, don't post.