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It doesn’t make it ok but it makes it self defeating. We can’t win the ok battle any more as no one up top gives a shit clearly.

by setquk 8y ago

TomMarius 8y ago
I'm absolutely sure it's self defeating only temporarily and/or when it doesn't matter. Governments can use literally any amount of money and other resources if they care, and there are many people who wouldn't even require extraordinary sums (being in army is not exactly well paid). We're going full speed into totality. It was absolutely the same when the communist regime started in my home country: People were saying they would not use their new powers against ordinary people and that seizing all farmland would be impractical and then after few years of silence KGB and gulags and executions happened (our local alternatives of course).
- setquk 8y ago
  They can but they don’t pay people much and you have to be morally bankrupt to work there. Very few people fit that niche. After paying £27k+ in tuition fees grad priority is earning so the government chased them off too.
  - TomMarius 8y ago
    Not at all. Most people see working for their country as a good thing. They can start paying people literally any sum of money literally any minute they want. And even if UK people wouldn't work for them, mercenaries are common.
    - setquk 8y ago
      Not here in the UK. Once you’ve taken a public sector position you are tainted.
      - heavenlyblue 8y ago
        I assume that doesn't include working for NHS?
        setquk 8y ago
        In an IT capacity that does include the NHS. I'm not for a moment suggesting this is right for ref. Individual merit is much more important.
      - northernmonkey 8y ago
        That is absolutely not the case
PavlovsCat 8y ago
> We can’t win the ok battle any more as no one up top gives a shit clearly. That's the reason to battle, not the reason you lost before you even did that.
- setquk 8y ago
  There aren't enough people who care about it to win the battle so we make sure the victory is pointless.

It doesn’t make it ok but it makes it self defeating. We can’t win the ok battle any more as no one up top gives a shit clearly.

by setquk 8y ago

It doesn’t make it ok but it makes it self defeating. We can’t win the ok battle any more as no one up top gives a shit clearly.

TomMarius 8y ago

I'm absolutely sure it's self defeating only temporarily and/or when it doesn't matter. Governments can use literally any amount of money and other resources if they care, and there are many people who wouldn't even require extraordinary sums (being in army is not exactly well paid). We're going full speed into totality. It was absolutely the same when the communist regime started in my home country: People were saying they would not use their new powers against ordinary people and that seizing all farmland would be impractical and then after few years of silence KGB and gulags and executions happened (our local alternatives of course).

setquk 8y ago
They can but they don’t pay people much and you have to be morally bankrupt to work there. Very few people fit that niche. After paying £27k+ in tuition fees grad priority is earning so the government chased them off too.
- TomMarius 8y ago
  Not at all. Most people see working for their country as a good thing. They can start paying people literally any sum of money literally any minute they want. And even if UK people wouldn't work for them, mercenaries are common.
  - setquk 8y ago
    Not here in the UK. Once you’ve taken a public sector position you are tainted.
    - heavenlyblue 8y ago
      I assume that doesn't include working for NHS?
      - setquk 8y ago
        In an IT capacity that does include the NHS. I'm not for a moment suggesting this is right for ref. Individual merit is much more important.
    - northernmonkey 8y ago
      That is absolutely not the case

PavlovsCat 8y ago

> We can’t win the ok battle any more as no one up top gives a shit clearly. That's the reason to battle, not the reason you lost before you even did that.

setquk 8y ago
There aren't enough people who care about it to win the battle so we make sure the victory is pointless.