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Intel had been sayinga lot of things lately that didn't turn out true. Xpoint claims, 10nm schedules, etc. Is is probably a safe bet to ignore any news from th
by quickben 8y ago
Intel had been sayinga lot of things lately that didn't turn out true. Xpoint claims, 10nm schedules, etc.
Is is probably a safe bet to ignore any news from there until they actually deliver anything and read independent benchmarks.
It is really sad, they used to be very correct in their communication.
- frabert 8y agoI think it has something to do with the fact that Intel hasn't got, for the first time in many years, the "latest and greatest" mainstream processors anymore
- tracker1 8y agoI'm not sure I completely agree. On the top end, Intel is clearly ahead. However, multi-threaded workloads and higher IPC is becoming more important for many things. And given the price premium that Intel is charging, AMD is definitely competitive. For that matter, ARM solutions could also be very competitive but seems to be overpriced by comparison to x86 for any server solution I've seen so far.
- slededit 8y agoSee this panel about Intel’s “project crush” and the defeat of the 68000 [1]. Intel inside was yet another brilliant marketing campaign to take pricing power from the OEMs. Intel at its core is a marketing company. If they also happen to have the best tech that is nice too but not a necessity. [1] https://youtu.be/xvCzdeDoPzg https://youtu.be/xvCzdeDoPzg
- Godel_unicode 8y ago> Intel at its core is a marketing company That's an absurd hyperbole.
- Retric 8y agoI don’t agree with his point, but I can see it. For years CPU performance has largely been irrelevant, but they convinced the market to over pay on underperforming hardware. Intel inside is great marketing and creating different brands of processors like i7 vs i3 independent of form factor pulls the focus away from absolute performance. Getting software manufacturers to customize for your chip again gets out of playing the actual head to head game.
- kev009 8y agoIt's really not hyperbole I can confirm after being one of the main contacts at a cloud service provider. Marketing can push engineering and allocate budgets. Everything is driven by "Plan Of Record" agreed with marketing. If you need something done you push marketing to add or change the POR.
- neximo64 8y ago> Intel at its core is a marketing company It would be interesting to hear your other adages if this is anything to go by.
- slededit 8y agoProject Crush and Intel inside are simply brilliant. It’s extremely rare for a component manufacturer to capture mindshare from the OEM. Given they’ve led the charge technologically in CPUs for decades this is extremely high praise. I think people are taking this as suggesting Intel does not innovate technologically which is not the case. The video provides evidence of the tech being nice but not required. They openly admit their CPU was “a dog” and all the software people hated it. Yet their strategy of going around them to management worked perfectly. People forget how awful segmented 16-bit was. And other CPUs like the 68000 and Alpha were faster at various points in time.
- shard972 8y agoI wouldn't count intel down and out just yet, when you look at the fundamentals they are still number 1 and when you add in extra bonuses like the amazing strides they have made in increasing their diversity I think intel is going to bounce back hard.
- fromthestart 8y agoWhat does diversity have to do with falling behind in processor technology?
- ATsch 8y agoI assume "Diversity (Business)" not "Diversity (Politics)", to borrow the wikipedia disambiguation.