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Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example. China can af

Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example. China can afford a Finland vs USSR scenario, several times over. China is not going away and the Taiwanese are essentially Han Chinese according to Wikipedia so the Afghan scenario is different. China can offer same government or laws for at least for x decades...

polotics 8y ago
Righty-oh: as Han Chinese, the Taiwanese are highly dangerous to the mainland Communist Party's narrative that there is no alternative and that top-down Party heavy-handedness is just being reasonable "with Chinese characteristics". Any Finland-like scenario would demonstrate the effectiveness and societal value of obtaining more democracy to all Han Chinese.
- forkLding 8y ago
  Or exacerbate the conflict, the deaths from both sides in Taiwan and China could create hate that might just lead to a eight-year-long civil war like the Syrian Civil War with no end in sight.
  - polotics 8y ago
    Hmm sorry this is a bit of a non-sequitur. Responsibility for the deaths on both sides would squarely fall on Xi, and he would get all the very much deserved hate, having taken full ownership now.
    - forkLding 8y ago
      It would fall on Xi but that doesn't mean the conflict will end, once blood is spilt, there will be anger. I've seen enough Middle Eastern conflicts to see where it would end. We can blame Assad for the Syrian war but its not ending it.
  - AnimalMuppet 8y ago
    Probably not. There's a straight between the two sides here. They aren't right next to each other like in Syria.
    - bobthepanda 8y ago
      There's a strait between Northern Ireland and the British mainland. It doesn't take very many people to cause destabilizing acts of terror.
bobthepanda 8y ago
The notion that everything is kumbaya among all Han Chinese automatically is a silly government line. > China can offer same government or laws for at least for x decades... Wasn't Hong Kong supposed to be independently managed til 2047? The Taiwanese are not blind.
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  >>Wasn't Hong Kong supposed to be independently managed til 2047? The Taiwanese are not blind. Ask Hong Kong...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Hong_Kong_Garrison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Hon... . Blind or not average people might not fight to the last man if they feel /perceive no difference in rule.

polotics 8y ago

Righty-oh: as Han Chinese, the Taiwanese are highly dangerous to the mainland Communist Party's narrative that there is no alternative and that top-down Party heavy-handedness is just being reasonable "with Chinese characteristics". Any Finland-like scenario would demonstrate the effectiveness and societal value of obtaining more democracy to all Han Chinese.

forkLding 8y ago
Or exacerbate the conflict, the deaths from both sides in Taiwan and China could create hate that might just lead to a eight-year-long civil war like the Syrian Civil War with no end in sight.
- polotics 8y ago
  Hmm sorry this is a bit of a non-sequitur. Responsibility for the deaths on both sides would squarely fall on Xi, and he would get all the very much deserved hate, having taken full ownership now.
  - forkLding 8y ago
    It would fall on Xi but that doesn't mean the conflict will end, once blood is spilt, there will be anger. I've seen enough Middle Eastern conflicts to see where it would end. We can blame Assad for the Syrian war but its not ending it.
- AnimalMuppet 8y ago
  Probably not. There's a straight between the two sides here. They aren't right next to each other like in Syria.
  - bobthepanda 8y ago
    There's a strait between Northern Ireland and the British mainland. It doesn't take very many people to cause destabilizing acts of terror.

bobthepanda 8y ago

The notion that everything is kumbaya among all Han Chinese automatically is a silly government line. > China can offer same government or laws for at least for x decades... Wasn't Hong Kong supposed to be independently managed til 2047? The Taiwanese are not blind.

onetimemanytime 8y ago
>>Wasn't Hong Kong supposed to be independently managed til 2047? The Taiwanese are not blind. Ask Hong Kong...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Hong_Kong_Garrison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Hon... . Blind or not average people might not fight to the last man if they feel /perceive no difference in rule.