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Actually the information is from the official website, infact in the details page you can find link to the offical website. What i'm trying to do here is simpli

by 1hakr 8y ago

Actually the information is from the official website, infact in the details page you can find link to the offical website. What i'm trying to do here is simplify the visa requirements for everyone.

stelonix 8y ago
I disagree with the GP comment, something like this is exactly what I needed about a month ago, due to possibly needing political asylum. Speaking of which, I'll take the time to suggest you, if you can, to add information whether a given country is a signatory of the 1967 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees. Thank you for the great work!
s0rce 8y ago
I was also concerned about a similar issue so I selected my home country and a random visiting country that required a visa. The site indicates the source is wikipedia https://visalist.io/central-african-republic/visa-requirements/canada https://visalist.io/central-african-republic/visa-requiremen... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Canadian_citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Canadian... Results for USA citizens is similar (citing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_American_citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_American...) while the presentation is different the source isn't exactly official.
- 1hakr 8y ago
  Correct but Wikipedia is not the only source, I have manually gone to every government website and gathered the document checklist!
fareesh 8y ago
No the information claims to be sourced from Wikipedia. On comparing the information with the official website, there are numerous places where the information on this website is incomplete or inaccurate. For example, the visa requirements for India->Italy show no mention of photocopies of US, UK and Schengen visa pages. The requirements do not provide explicit specifications for the photograph (white background). There is no mention of a travel itinerary including a list of other countries that one is intending to visit, which is also a requirement. The bottom line is that the information is of poor quality by virtue of not being accurate, and nobody takes responsibility for it, which makes it very risky to use when making important plans.
- 1hakr 8y ago
  The cover letter #10 in the document checklist is the itinerary I found this very useful website to check visa requirements for different countries https://visalist.io/italy/visa-requirements/india https://visalist.io/italy/visa-requirements/india This is my MVP, I plan to add photo details soon.
Carpetsmoker 8y ago
Over here: https://visalist.io/new-zealand/visa-requirements/netherlands https://visalist.io/new-zealand/visa-requirements/netherland... it says "source: wikipedia", which is hardly "official", and may not be comprehensive. The Wikipedia page is subtly wrong you get a "visa on arrival", not "visa not required". There are some important details left out too; for example one of the conditions for getting the visa is that you have booked flights out of New Zealand. I've heard stories of people not realizing this and having to book flights on the spot :-( You can get a 9 month visa quite easily, but you need to apply for it (and then you can enter without flights out of the country). There are probably many more pages where such details (or even more important details) are lacking; I just chose this one as I recently moved to New Zealand so I know a thing or two about the Visa requirements there. It might be useful for a quick "hm, I'd like to go somewhere, what are my options?", but I would always check the immigration website for these kinds of requirements/details. And frankly, I don't see what this website adds over Wikipedia.
- 1hakr 8y ago
  So the official website, visa application link, fees and document checklist are not available on Wikipedia. VisaList tries to aggregate all this info and show it in a simple and useful manner.
  - Carpetsmoker 8y ago
    None of this is visible on VisaList, either? The New Zealand visa website is pretty good, as is the one from the Netherlands: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/ https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/ and https://www.netherlandsandyou.nl/travel-and-residence https://www.netherlandsandyou.nl/travel-and-residence It includes all these things. Perhaps other countries are less helpful, but certainly in these cases VisaLink isn't really adding anything in its current state. Also, "You do not need a chip & PIN card to use an ATM — your standard magnetic card will work fine" is wrong for the Netherlands, as magnetic cards were phased out years ago. They're not accepted anywhere AFAIK. Getting good data on "the entire world" as you're trying to do here is hard, and requires real experts. Just copying/scraping Wikipedia is frankly not a good place to start, actually investing money and paying domain experts is. I know it sucks to have people be critical about something you spent a lot of time building, and maybe one day your website will have better data, and I wish you the best of luck with, but right now I don't see how it's adding value. Sorry :-(

by 1hakr 8y ago

Actually the information is from the official website, infact in the details page you can find link to the offical website. What i'm trying to do here is simplify the visa requirements for everyone.

stelonix 8y ago

I disagree with the GP comment, something like this is exactly what I needed about a month ago, due to possibly needing political asylum. Speaking of which, I'll take the time to suggest you, if you can, to add information whether a given country is a signatory of the 1967 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees. Thank you for the great work!

s0rce 8y ago

I was also concerned about a similar issue so I selected my home country and a random visiting country that required a visa. The site indicates the source is wikipedia https://visalist.io/central-african-republic/visa-requirements/canada https://visalist.io/central-african-republic/visa-requiremen... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Canadian_citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Canadian... Results for USA citizens is similar (citing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_American_citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_American...) while the presentation is different the source isn't exactly official.

1hakr 8y ago
Correct but Wikipedia is not the only source, I have manually gone to every government website and gathered the document checklist!

fareesh 8y ago

No the information claims to be sourced from Wikipedia. On comparing the information with the official website, there are numerous places where the information on this website is incomplete or inaccurate. For example, the visa requirements for India->Italy show no mention of photocopies of US, UK and Schengen visa pages. The requirements do not provide explicit specifications for the photograph (white background). There is no mention of a travel itinerary including a list of other countries that one is intending to visit, which is also a requirement. The bottom line is that the information is of poor quality by virtue of not being accurate, and nobody takes responsibility for it, which makes it very risky to use when making important plans.

1hakr 8y ago
The cover letter #10 in the document checklist is the itinerary I found this very useful website to check visa requirements for different countries https://visalist.io/italy/visa-requirements/india https://visalist.io/italy/visa-requirements/india This is my MVP, I plan to add photo details soon.

Carpetsmoker 8y ago

Over here: https://visalist.io/new-zealand/visa-requirements/netherlands https://visalist.io/new-zealand/visa-requirements/netherland... it says "source: wikipedia", which is hardly "official", and may not be comprehensive. The Wikipedia page is subtly wrong you get a "visa on arrival", not "visa not required". There are some important details left out too; for example one of the conditions for getting the visa is that you have booked flights out of New Zealand. I've heard stories of people not realizing this and having to book flights on the spot :-( You can get a 9 month visa quite easily, but you need to apply for it (and then you can enter without flights out of the country). There are probably many more pages where such details (or even more important details) are lacking; I just chose this one as I recently moved to New Zealand so I know a thing or two about the Visa requirements there. It might be useful for a quick "hm, I'd like to go somewhere, what are my options?", but I would always check the immigration website for these kinds of requirements/details. And frankly, I don't see what this website adds over Wikipedia.

1hakr 8y ago
So the official website, visa application link, fees and document checklist are not available on Wikipedia. VisaList tries to aggregate all this info and show it in a simple and useful manner.
- Carpetsmoker 8y ago
  None of this is visible on VisaList, either? The New Zealand visa website is pretty good, as is the one from the Netherlands: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/ https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/ and https://www.netherlandsandyou.nl/travel-and-residence https://www.netherlandsandyou.nl/travel-and-residence It includes all these things. Perhaps other countries are less helpful, but certainly in these cases VisaLink isn't really adding anything in its current state. Also, "You do not need a chip & PIN card to use an ATM — your standard magnetic card will work fine" is wrong for the Netherlands, as magnetic cards were phased out years ago. They're not accepted anywhere AFAIK. Getting good data on "the entire world" as you're trying to do here is hard, and requires real experts. Just copying/scraping Wikipedia is frankly not a good place to start, actually investing money and paying domain experts is. I know it sucks to have people be critical about something you spent a lot of time building, and maybe one day your website will have better data, and I wish you the best of luck with, but right now I don't see how it's adding value. Sorry :-(