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if you think TSA is getting hard to handle with unreasonable surveillance, you havent taken a road trip lately. Riding my motorcycle from the east coast to the
by nimbius 8y ago
if you think TSA is getting hard to handle with unreasonable surveillance, you havent taken a road trip lately.
Riding my motorcycle from the east coast to the southwest I was stopped by "border patrol" at least 100 miles from any border I could see. After refusing to answer any questions, I was detained for an hour near the AZ border until agents could photograph my sugar skull patch and empty all my bags on the side of the road.
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- swozey 8y agoI'm not sure if there are more than usual now but those of us in TX have dealt with interior checkpoints traveling anywhere near MX I'd say most of our lives. We go out of our way to take paths that avoid them. If you didn't know they existed it makes sense that they'd surprise you. I didn't know until moving to TX and going on aimless roadtrips in my Jeep, quite the surprise. And yeah, they'll harass the hell out of you. Everyone has some friend who was detained for something or other then released. That's why we avoid them if we're not actually going to MX. Specifically I remember a friend getting detained for an expired drivers license when he was just a passenger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_interior_checkpoints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_in... edit: Evidently there are some near Canada as well, didn't know that.
- blattimwind 8y agoBorder checkpoints inside the country?
- saagarjha 8y agoThe US Border Patrol has jurisdiction 100 miles from any international border or coast, or something like that.
- jghn 8y agoIirc anything within 100 miles is considered the border zone. And that turns out to be an awfully large percentage of the heavily populated areas of the country
- swozey 8y agoYeah, a lot of the popular ranches are within 100 miles of the border where the border patrol sets up jurisdiction. South Texas consists of an insane amount of huge ranches. Stuff by Uvalde, etc. If you fly a private plane to MX you also have to land at Laughlin AFB at the border and have your plane searched.
- nraynaud 8y agoyeah, there are 2 fixed ones between Yuma and San Diego on the I8.
- nitwit005 8y agoCalifornia has it's own checkpoints, although they're purely about keeping pests out: https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/pe/ExteriorExclusion/borders.html https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/pe/ExteriorExclusion/borders.h...
- int_19h 8y agoNear Canada, there's also ferries to consider. CBP has been using some rather flimsy rationale to justify customs & border inspections on domestic ferries from San Juan islands to Anacortes on the mainland, for example. Basically, you are a US citizen, living on US soil, and travelling to another place in US without crossing any borders by the only means available at your location - and that translates to "papers, please". https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/border-patrol-spot-checks-on-ferries-provoke-outrage-in-san-juan-islands/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/border-patrol-spot...
- wongarsu 8y ago> at least 100 miles from any border I could see. Most of the population of the US lives within 100 miles of a border because airports count as a border.
- anticensor 8y agoOnly land and sea borders count. If you include airports, all of the US becomes border zone, which defeats the purpose of the regulation.
- arminiusreturns 8y agoOr is the on the face purpose of the legislation really a lie like so many others?
- smaddox 8y agoThe purpose of the "regulation" is to circumvent the US constitution, without actually amending the constitution.