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The idea of airport surveillance is itself dangerous, since "profiling" is prohibited. Either do it the way El Al does it (obsessively complete inspection of a

The idea of airport surveillance is itself dangerous, since "profiling" is prohibited. Either do it the way El Al does it (obsessively complete inspection of all persons boarding an aircraft) or forget it. Half measures don't accomplish the stated purpose and are only a means to population control, not for "security."

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edoo 8y ago
If security was private the companies involved could do it however they wanted, including using AI to profile. The TSA was created not for security but to shield the airlines from liability, and also a bit as a jobs program. In those regards it is a success.
- dawnerd 8y ago
  And now the airlines and airports want private security. Go figure.
Nasrudith 8y ago
Profiling doesn't make it better - it just limits the inconvenience to a minority population. I mean that isn't new at all - there was already a 'terrorist attack swap' done between Japanese communists and Palestinian nationalist terrorist groups to dodge profiling. In 1972, the Lod Airport massacre. Not looking at the Japanese men's luggage in Israel wouldn't have helped them at all since they didn't fit the profile at all. The truth is the airport security is worse than useless because anyone who wants to kill a lot of people can just use guns, bombs, or vehicles through walls while people are in a dense area.
- solatic 8y ago
  Which is why one of the conclusions that Israeli airport security had after the Lod Airport Massacre was for the need to profile people for anxiety and other psychological signs of attempting to evade security, plus other risk factors like young adult males traveling alone. Israeli airport security profiling policy hasn't taught racial profiling in decades.
  - int_19h 8y ago
    > Israeli airport security profiling policy hasn't taught racial profiling in decades. Is it something that necessarily needs to be taught in order to be practiced?
  - fabioborellini 8y ago
    There's no need to teach racial profiling to Israeli, since after their mandatory military service they already know what kind of people has no right to live freely or at all. Spending years in an environment where Arabs are seen as subhuman practice targets will change a person, and in this case it means each Israeli adult has gone through military brainwash.

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edoo 8y ago

If security was private the companies involved could do it however they wanted, including using AI to profile. The TSA was created not for security but to shield the airlines from liability, and also a bit as a jobs program. In those regards it is a success.

dawnerd 8y ago
And now the airlines and airports want private security. Go figure.

Nasrudith 8y ago

Profiling doesn't make it better - it just limits the inconvenience to a minority population. I mean that isn't new at all - there was already a 'terrorist attack swap' done between Japanese communists and Palestinian nationalist terrorist groups to dodge profiling. In 1972, the Lod Airport massacre. Not looking at the Japanese men's luggage in Israel wouldn't have helped them at all since they didn't fit the profile at all. The truth is the airport security is worse than useless because anyone who wants to kill a lot of people can just use guns, bombs, or vehicles through walls while people are in a dense area.

solatic 8y ago
Which is why one of the conclusions that Israeli airport security had after the Lod Airport Massacre was for the need to profile people for anxiety and other psychological signs of attempting to evade security, plus other risk factors like young adult males traveling alone. Israeli airport security profiling policy hasn't taught racial profiling in decades.
- int_19h 8y ago
  > Israeli airport security profiling policy hasn't taught racial profiling in decades. Is it something that necessarily needs to be taught in order to be practiced?
- fabioborellini 8y ago
  There's no need to teach racial profiling to Israeli, since after their mandatory military service they already know what kind of people has no right to live freely or at all. Spending years in an environment where Arabs are seen as subhuman practice targets will change a person, and in this case it means each Israeli adult has gone through military brainwash.