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> it sounds like the real goal is just No. I suspect you have the kind of point of view where we might better first discuss the proposed data structure and TH
by no_identd 8y ago
> it sounds like the real goal is just
No.
I suspect you have the kind of point of view where we might better first discuss the proposed data structure and THEN what we'll do with it. First, you'll want to learn about zzstructure/hyperthogonal structure:
http://xanadu.com/zigzag/ http://xanadu.com/zigzag/
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=zzstructure https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=zzstructure
for a comparison of the above with Ubergraphs (a generalization of Ultragraphs, themselves a generalization of Hypergraphs), you'll want to check here:
https://github.com/JeffreyBenjaminBrown/digraphs-with-text/issues/11 https://github.com/JeffreyBenjaminBrown/digraphs-with-text/i...
Once you think you comprehend the above, consider spending some time thinking about how you could come up with a 'canonical', graphical user interface AND user experience for a Ubergraph that uses hyperthogonal structure.
Then imagine how you'd implement such a data structure in a distributed, peer to peer, UNCENTRALIZABLE (not just decentralized!), secure manner.
If you can imagine all of that and think you comprehend at least one tiny part of the implications of such a thing, then you comprehend about 1/10 of "the real goal" of Xanadu, and I invite you to consider continuing to ponder the possibilities.
- mimixco 8y agoYou are entirely right that the data structure is paramount. But I'm not using Xanalogical documents nor any front or backend designs from Ted. I actually think he didn't do a very good job with those. Instead, Mimix records a user's interactions in MSL, a domain-specific language (not Turing complete on purpose) which describes a forward-write-only experience of reading and text composition. I'm glad you brought up the UI because it's an area ripe for innovation and one we're seriously excited about. UI is one of my specialties and I'm looking forward to sharing our designs for interacting with canonical documents in a modern and approachable way. HN is my favorite place to post this kind of stuff, so you'll "Hear it here first."