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From an economic perspective, using a service like Pivotal feels like placing a bet that the pricing difference between cloud providers will be higher that the
by yodon 8y ago
From an economic perspective, using a service like Pivotal feels like placing a bet that the pricing difference between cloud providers will be higher that the cost of paying for Pivotal's support plan (I know, open source, but if you reach a scale where these things matter enough that you care about the cost to switch clouds you are probably at the scale where you find yourself paying for Redhat and etc support plans).
As cool as "cloud agnostic" sounds, paying any real tax to achieve it probably exceeds the long term price differential between major cloud providers. The major clouds sell commodities, recognize that they sell commodities, and they operate as low margin large scale providers. Over time the pricing differences have to average out to about zero, otherwise the market would abandon the always-more-TCO-costly provider (which would cause them to lower their margins to recapture the higher total earnings).
- wmf 8y agoI suspect people aren't paying for Pivotal stuff to save money but because they aren't competent enough to use public cloud directly or they have unlimited risk aversion.
- richards 8y agoHonestly, this rarely seems to come down to cloud pricing considerations. Rather, the goal for most shops who choose something like PCF is to (a) simplify onboarding and ongoing work of devs since they don't need to learn the nuances of each cloud IaaS, (b) stripe a single ops model across each infrastructure pool, which matters since no enterprise of size is using only one. People buy because they struggle to ship, and PCF helps these big companies put their focus back onto shipping software, not where or how it runs. Disclosure: I work at Pivotal.
- Proven 8y ago> From an economic perspective, using a service like Pivotal feels like placing a bet that the pricing difference between cloud providers will be higher that the cost of paying for Pivotal's support plan Wrong. The idea of using 3rd party orchestration services will increase the ROI or lower the TCO through things like the ability to run the same container or function anywhere, including on prem (which is rarely more expensive than the cloud, by the way). Apache is free, but if you run IIS on-premises, Apache on Amazon may not necessarily save you money. That's why Azure is doing well and others (such as Pivotal) may be able to carve out a niche for themselves too. And it's also wrong to say that major cloud providers operate on low margins.