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I share a similar philosophy... that free will is choosing between the options we recognize given by our immutable past. Who we are is mostly an accumulation of

I share a similar philosophy... that free will is choosing between the options we recognize given by our immutable past. Who we are is mostly an accumulation of chance events and responses running on autopilot. Most moments don't matter, some nudge us in different directions, others snowball into defining our eulogies. Hard work enables us to leverage chance events (if we recognize them) into some probability of success, but the rest is outside of our control. Life is chaotic. We're all just pieces of a big entropy machine. It's the butterfly effect at scale.

intralizee 8y ago
The main counter is you're not choosing when everything is based on the proceeding event with the variables assigned at birth. Nothing is chance when understanding the universe is mechanical in a sense like a clock. Hard work is just a psychological pattern adapted from how you were conditioned with the mindset you developed by fate.
- losteric 8y ago
  Determinism is an interesting question... we exist at a fascinating scale, in between lower orders significantly influenced by non-deterministic forces and higher orders where determinism seems to prevails. The chemical reactions driving cellular machinery is influenced by quantum randomness, while astronomical scales seem to be entirely deterministic (though chaotic). For example, radioactive decay influences both DNA replication and planetary orbits (via heat-driven plate tectonics)... but it seems that any randomness is washed out by the sheer volume of matter at the planetary scale. We sit right in between those orders. Our bodies are an interconnected web of non-deterministic cells cooperating to maintain higher-level order and some approximation of determinism. Obviously I can't say with certainty, but I find free will to be more likely than not.
  - intralizeee 8y ago
    You’re conditioned by society to subconsciously have comfort to the idea of free will and it cannot be rational to assume likelihood to it. People theoretically assuming quantum mechanics is truly random and it may not necessarily be true. It may in fact be similar to everything else that follows determinism. Even if it’s perceived random by outside hidden variables and which are non-observable to our universe. It can still be deterministic by variables in another universe and where the outcomes trickle into our universe as perceived randomness.

intralizee 8y ago

The main counter is you're not choosing when everything is based on the proceeding event with the variables assigned at birth. Nothing is chance when understanding the universe is mechanical in a sense like a clock. Hard work is just a psychological pattern adapted from how you were conditioned with the mindset you developed by fate.

losteric 8y ago
Determinism is an interesting question... we exist at a fascinating scale, in between lower orders significantly influenced by non-deterministic forces and higher orders where determinism seems to prevails. The chemical reactions driving cellular machinery is influenced by quantum randomness, while astronomical scales seem to be entirely deterministic (though chaotic). For example, radioactive decay influences both DNA replication and planetary orbits (via heat-driven plate tectonics)... but it seems that any randomness is washed out by the sheer volume of matter at the planetary scale. We sit right in between those orders. Our bodies are an interconnected web of non-deterministic cells cooperating to maintain higher-level order and some approximation of determinism. Obviously I can't say with certainty, but I find free will to be more likely than not.
- intralizeee 8y ago
  You’re conditioned by society to subconsciously have comfort to the idea of free will and it cannot be rational to assume likelihood to it. People theoretically assuming quantum mechanics is truly random and it may not necessarily be true. It may in fact be similar to everything else that follows determinism. Even if it’s perceived random by outside hidden variables and which are non-observable to our universe. It can still be deterministic by variables in another universe and where the outcomes trickle into our universe as perceived randomness.