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Dear iPhone–It Was Just Physical, and Now It’s Over

38 points by dnetesn 8y ago

carrhack 8y ago
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czardoz 8y ago
No one knows how to properly use social media. Everyone keeps consuming information, all the time. Good news, bad news, opinions, cat pictures. That's what causes fatigue. Social media is maybe not good for news, but it's awesome to connect with people having similar interests, and to talk to friends who you don't see often.
jrnichols 8y ago
This read like yet another "i quit $trendy_thing" blog post to me. Do we really need a whole article to say "I'm not using my phone that much and now I feel enlightened." Maybe I'm being a little cynical, but.. so what?
ponco 8y ago
Time spent sitting all alone Time spent looking at my phone Time spent sitting all alone Time spent looking at my phone I try to pull the curtains back Turn you off, can't be touched When all I want and all I know Is time spent looking at my phone Find me when the lights go down Signing in signing out Gods descend to take me home Find me staring at my phone I'm wondering where the hours went As I'm losing consciousness My sullen face is all aglow Time spent looking at my phone MGMT - TSLAMP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stynWxPJ4PE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stynWxPJ4PE
draw_down 8y ago
Good grief.
lifeisstillgood 8y ago
Articles like this cake out for radio, TV, phones. Hell people even thought newspapers took us away from our families thing is, they are right - phones do take us out of the now. Probably the next big development will be Agents running on our phones that actively fight the predations of facebook et al. I would like to even write one. The first thing i should write is an app that limits my TV watching - then HN :-) But till then, we do get much positive out of these things. We just have to put them down more
kris-s 8y ago
I'm trying to recalibrate my own relationship with my phone from its current status as the "this is what I do if I'm bored" device to a "this is a tool, I should use it for a task and then put it away" type situation. Both Android and iOS have gotten features to help curtail excessive phone use, which is a good first step. Something I do while I'm at work is put my phone in my drawer and in airplane mode. The biggest pillar I'd like to see destroyed in modern tech (specifically wrt smartphone overuse) is advertising - the incentives are just so poisonous. Ads seem to be the driving force behind making certain apps, like instagram, as addictive as possible. A hard regulatory line needs to be drawn.
- SllX 8y ago
  This is essentially what I do. I don’t pull my phone out unless there is some intent behind why I am pulling it out. If I pull it out to check the time, I don’t then unlock it to mindlessly browse the web. If I pull it out to read a book, I’ll treat my phone as if I’m reading a book and won’t care so much about how much “screen time” I have. Or if I’m using something like Instapaper. If I’m using Reddit, I’m looking for news on a specific thing or I’m looking for information on a topic, and Reddit is just one stop I make along the way, that doesn’t change whether I’m on my phone or laptop. If I’m watching a movie or something in bed, then it is time I would have spent on a television screen anyway. If I’m taking notes, I’m taking notes. If I’m journaling, I’m journaling. I’m not interested in how much time I spend on my phone specifically, I’m interested in knowing if I waste time. So far, I don’t feel like I waste time. My recreation time is well accounted for, and some of it is spent on my phone too, but I’m not against spending some of it on my phone. At the end of the week when iOS 12 sends me a report on how I spent my time, I’m generally not surprise. If I am surprised, I try to be more conscientious going into the next week.
bradenb 8y ago
I guess I feel like I don't have a screen time problem because for me my phone is (in order): 1) A communication device 2) A music player 3) A glorified search engine when I'm not at a computer I think because I never really dived head-first into social media I don't have a strong desire to use my phone beyond when I need it for the above functions.
- JeanMarcS 8y ago
  I’m guessing you are writing this from your computer then. Me it’s from my phone. It’s 30 past midnight here in London and I’m eating, alone in the Airbnb I booked (don’t worry, I had a great evening :-), so I guess I could watch TV. But I’m reading HN. Today I visited London a bit, gone to British Museum, and made a lot of bus time. So I used my smartphone, while on the bus or in the queue to BM to follow events in Paris and France (as I’m french) Again, with my smartphone. So is it wasted time ? Maybe. I don’t know what else I could have done. Speaking with people was not possible, queuing between Italians and people from another country that I didn’t get the language. I could have listen to music (or a podcast or whatever) but I was concerned with the situation in France. So for me it’s a computer that I can use anywhere. On the other hand, do I waste time on it ? More than I should. But I too waste time on my computer doing the same stuff !
- kbenson 8y ago
  I use my phone a lot during the day, but that's because I'm not sure if I would categorize it first and foremost as a book reader or communications device. I spend much lot more time reading books/fiction on it than I do using it as a communication device (and don't use any social networks beyond HN), but the communication aspects of it are so important that I can't easily discount them as secondary. Interestingly, if I carried a paperback around with me, and pulled it out to read it when waiting for things, and read it before bed, would I be considered to have a "page time" problem, or is that more acceptable? If it's more acceptable, maybe that points to this being less a problem about spending time on the phone, and more about what we spend our time on in general.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > I guess I feel like I don't have a screen time problem because [...] That's an odd thing to volunteer and present a justification for when no one has accused you of having a “screen time problem”.
freddy418_sc 8y ago
I don't understand why the title says iPhone. The article describes the problems we have with any smart phone.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  Because it's an essay of personal experience, and the author's drug, er, device of choice was an iPhone (“iPhone” and “smartphone” are used interchangeably in the body to refer to the author’s device.) The fact that other people might share similar experiences with other devices, and that the author even recognizes this, doesn't change the fact that the personal experience being addressed relates specifically to an iPhone.
Apocryphon 8y ago
Smartphones and tablets may have latched themselves into our daily life, but I'm not convinced that we've even dealt with how much time we spend at our computers, at least for white collar workers. Does anyone else live this lifestyle? https://pics.me.me/tired-o-looking-at-bad-screen-cant-wait-to-get-36043948.png https://pics.me.me/tired-o-looking-at-bad-screen-cant-wait-t...
buboard 8y ago
They seem to be cultivating a media narrative that "smartphones are over". More likely they are entering their mature phase, after they stop being status symbols / default distraction devices.
- trevyn 8y ago
  They also answer the question of how we would approach the creation of sentient AI that is capable of suffering -- they switch their attention from the smartphone to a sentient being that they created that is capable of suffering.
lucb1e 8y ago
I'm not quite sure what the point of this article was. So it's not about Apple phones but about smartphones? And the conclusion is that s/he is happier now... good for them? This was quite a long article for how much the author really conveyed.
sys_64738 8y ago
In recent years everybody was telling me I needed a smartphone or I’d be left behind. Now I have a smartphone these same people are saying they wish they didn’t. So I cut the cord by returning the smartphone within the 14 day window. I’ve now gone from late adopter to trend setter all thanks to Apple’s two week return policy.

38 points by dnetesn 8y ago

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czardoz 8y ago

No one knows how to properly use social media. Everyone keeps consuming information, all the time. Good news, bad news, opinions, cat pictures. That's what causes fatigue. Social media is maybe not good for news, but it's awesome to connect with people having similar interests, and to talk to friends who you don't see often.

jrnichols 8y ago

This read like yet another "i quit $trendy_thing" blog post to me. Do we really need a whole article to say "I'm not using my phone that much and now I feel enlightened." Maybe I'm being a little cynical, but.. so what?

ponco 8y ago

Time spent sitting all alone Time spent looking at my phone Time spent sitting all alone Time spent looking at my phone I try to pull the curtains back Turn you off, can't be touched When all I want and all I know Is time spent looking at my phone Find me when the lights go down Signing in signing out Gods descend to take me home Find me staring at my phone I'm wondering where the hours went As I'm losing consciousness My sullen face is all aglow Time spent looking at my phone MGMT - TSLAMP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stynWxPJ4PE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stynWxPJ4PE

draw_down 8y ago

Good grief.

lifeisstillgood 8y ago

Articles like this cake out for radio, TV, phones. Hell people even thought newspapers took us away from our families thing is, they are right - phones do take us out of the now. Probably the next big development will be Agents running on our phones that actively fight the predations of facebook et al. I would like to even write one. The first thing i should write is an app that limits my TV watching - then HN :-) But till then, we do get much positive out of these things. We just have to put them down more

kris-s 8y ago

I'm trying to recalibrate my own relationship with my phone from its current status as the "this is what I do if I'm bored" device to a "this is a tool, I should use it for a task and then put it away" type situation. Both Android and iOS have gotten features to help curtail excessive phone use, which is a good first step. Something I do while I'm at work is put my phone in my drawer and in airplane mode. The biggest pillar I'd like to see destroyed in modern tech (specifically wrt smartphone overuse) is advertising - the incentives are just so poisonous. Ads seem to be the driving force behind making certain apps, like instagram, as addictive as possible. A hard regulatory line needs to be drawn.

SllX 8y ago
This is essentially what I do. I don’t pull my phone out unless there is some intent behind why I am pulling it out. If I pull it out to check the time, I don’t then unlock it to mindlessly browse the web. If I pull it out to read a book, I’ll treat my phone as if I’m reading a book and won’t care so much about how much “screen time” I have. Or if I’m using something like Instapaper. If I’m using Reddit, I’m looking for news on a specific thing or I’m looking for information on a topic, and Reddit is just one stop I make along the way, that doesn’t change whether I’m on my phone or laptop. If I’m watching a movie or something in bed, then it is time I would have spent on a television screen anyway. If I’m taking notes, I’m taking notes. If I’m journaling, I’m journaling. I’m not interested in how much time I spend on my phone specifically, I’m interested in knowing if I waste time. So far, I don’t feel like I waste time. My recreation time is well accounted for, and some of it is spent on my phone too, but I’m not against spending some of it on my phone. At the end of the week when iOS 12 sends me a report on how I spent my time, I’m generally not surprise. If I am surprised, I try to be more conscientious going into the next week.

bradenb 8y ago

I guess I feel like I don't have a screen time problem because for me my phone is (in order): 1) A communication device 2) A music player 3) A glorified search engine when I'm not at a computer I think because I never really dived head-first into social media I don't have a strong desire to use my phone beyond when I need it for the above functions.

JeanMarcS 8y ago
I’m guessing you are writing this from your computer then. Me it’s from my phone. It’s 30 past midnight here in London and I’m eating, alone in the Airbnb I booked (don’t worry, I had a great evening :-), so I guess I could watch TV. But I’m reading HN. Today I visited London a bit, gone to British Museum, and made a lot of bus time. So I used my smartphone, while on the bus or in the queue to BM to follow events in Paris and France (as I’m french) Again, with my smartphone. So is it wasted time ? Maybe. I don’t know what else I could have done. Speaking with people was not possible, queuing between Italians and people from another country that I didn’t get the language. I could have listen to music (or a podcast or whatever) but I was concerned with the situation in France. So for me it’s a computer that I can use anywhere. On the other hand, do I waste time on it ? More than I should. But I too waste time on my computer doing the same stuff !
kbenson 8y ago
I use my phone a lot during the day, but that's because I'm not sure if I would categorize it first and foremost as a book reader or communications device. I spend much lot more time reading books/fiction on it than I do using it as a communication device (and don't use any social networks beyond HN), but the communication aspects of it are so important that I can't easily discount them as secondary. Interestingly, if I carried a paperback around with me, and pulled it out to read it when waiting for things, and read it before bed, would I be considered to have a "page time" problem, or is that more acceptable? If it's more acceptable, maybe that points to this being less a problem about spending time on the phone, and more about what we spend our time on in general.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> I guess I feel like I don't have a screen time problem because [...] That's an odd thing to volunteer and present a justification for when no one has accused you of having a “screen time problem”.

freddy418_sc 8y ago

I don't understand why the title says iPhone. The article describes the problems we have with any smart phone.

dragonwriter 8y ago
Because it's an essay of personal experience, and the author's drug, er, device of choice was an iPhone (“iPhone” and “smartphone” are used interchangeably in the body to refer to the author’s device.) The fact that other people might share similar experiences with other devices, and that the author even recognizes this, doesn't change the fact that the personal experience being addressed relates specifically to an iPhone.

Apocryphon 8y ago

Smartphones and tablets may have latched themselves into our daily life, but I'm not convinced that we've even dealt with how much time we spend at our computers, at least for white collar workers. Does anyone else live this lifestyle? https://pics.me.me/tired-o-looking-at-bad-screen-cant-wait-to-get-36043948.png https://pics.me.me/tired-o-looking-at-bad-screen-cant-wait-t...

buboard 8y ago

They seem to be cultivating a media narrative that "smartphones are over". More likely they are entering their mature phase, after they stop being status symbols / default distraction devices.

trevyn 8y ago
They also answer the question of how we would approach the creation of sentient AI that is capable of suffering -- they switch their attention from the smartphone to a sentient being that they created that is capable of suffering.

lucb1e 8y ago

I'm not quite sure what the point of this article was. So it's not about Apple phones but about smartphones? And the conclusion is that s/he is happier now... good for them? This was quite a long article for how much the author really conveyed.

sys_64738 8y ago

In recent years everybody was telling me I needed a smartphone or I’d be left behind. Now I have a smartphone these same people are saying they wish they didn’t. So I cut the cord by returning the smartphone within the 14 day window. I’ve now gone from late adopter to trend setter all thanks to Apple’s two week return policy.