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Hello hackernews, what's going on here? I commented on a businessinsider* story about this. It is now a times.co.uk story that a) I can't read in full and b) is

Hello hackernews, what's going on here? I commented on a businessinsider* story about this. It is now a times.co.uk story that a) I can't read in full and b) is not the story I originally commented on. I'm not particularly happy about having my comments attached to a different article than the one I originally commented on, especially one I can't read. * i wrote bloomberg here originally; it was actually businessinsider.com.au. i'd say i regret the error but i don't really

balibebas 8y ago
Ain't that some shit. HN blows goats.
Waterluvian 8y ago
I know Hacker News doesn't like change, finding value in keeping the UI simple. And I really really like that. But maybe there should be some little dot one can click that shows a history of original post titles / URLs. This doesn't directly address your valid complaint. But I think it might be a palatable remedy.
ethbro 8y ago
@dang I know this isn't done often or without cause, and it certainly serves a value. But as we grow and the necessity of url subs increase... parent does have a valid point. Particularly if changes are UI-invisible. Even a "[changed]" tag suffix might help.
- darren_ 8y ago
  Please insist on dropping comments if you're going to keep doing this. Imagine commenting encouragingly on some programming article, and then HN merges it with another one, and now you're on record as being at all positive to ESR
- dang 8y ago
  We usually post a comment about it, but not all the moderators are in a position to do that. I understand the sentiment in favor, but am not inclined to add moderation tags or widgets to HN's UI. Features like that add complexity, and take up space that might otherwise go to more valuable features.
fallingfrog 8y ago
Yeah I’m the original poster and it wasn’t me who made the change; not sure how it happened.
- dec0dedab0de 8y ago
  Mods will sometimes change a link or combine comment threads with just one link. Especially if one if the articles is using the other as its source. Also, to prevent multipule threads about the same story.
sctb 8y ago
A moderator updated the link to the original source (from https://www.businessinsider.com.au/jack-poulson-ex-google-says-management-obsessed-with-stopping-leaks-2018-12 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/jack-poulson-ex-google-sa...), which is standard practice (mentioned in the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). Sorry, we usually post about this right away but sometimes there's a bit of lag.
- darren_ 8y ago
  Thanks for the update. I'll admit to not reading the guidelines closely until now, but since they don't actually outline a list of websites considered 'non-original', this does essentially mean that HN can apparently shift comments you make for any arbitrary URL to another, and you have no way to know beforehand. Sorry, I don't mean to sound irritable, but attaching my comments to an article I didn't intend is way too close to putting words in my mouth.
  - Izkata 8y ago
    A list of sites doesn't make a whole lot of sense IMO because they regularly borrow reports from each other, and the list will always be incomplete. The key in this case was this line, which links to the Times article: > In comments reported on Saturday by The Times of London, Poulson cited as an example of the anti-leak culture an an unnamed senior engineer taking the microphone at an all-hands meeting to yell “F— you leakers” at his colleagues.

balibebas 8y ago

Ain't that some shit. HN blows goats.

Waterluvian 8y ago

I know Hacker News doesn't like change, finding value in keeping the UI simple. And I really really like that. But maybe there should be some little dot one can click that shows a history of original post titles / URLs. This doesn't directly address your valid complaint. But I think it might be a palatable remedy.

ethbro 8y ago

@dang I know this isn't done often or without cause, and it certainly serves a value. But as we grow and the necessity of url subs increase... parent does have a valid point. Particularly if changes are UI-invisible. Even a "[changed]" tag suffix might help.

darren_ 8y ago
Please insist on dropping comments if you're going to keep doing this. Imagine commenting encouragingly on some programming article, and then HN merges it with another one, and now you're on record as being at all positive to ESR
dang 8y ago
We usually post a comment about it, but not all the moderators are in a position to do that. I understand the sentiment in favor, but am not inclined to add moderation tags or widgets to HN's UI. Features like that add complexity, and take up space that might otherwise go to more valuable features.

fallingfrog 8y ago

Yeah I’m the original poster and it wasn’t me who made the change; not sure how it happened.

dec0dedab0de 8y ago
Mods will sometimes change a link or combine comment threads with just one link. Especially if one if the articles is using the other as its source. Also, to prevent multipule threads about the same story.

sctb 8y ago

A moderator updated the link to the original source (from https://www.businessinsider.com.au/jack-poulson-ex-google-says-management-obsessed-with-stopping-leaks-2018-12 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/jack-poulson-ex-google-sa...), which is standard practice (mentioned in the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). Sorry, we usually post about this right away but sometimes there's a bit of lag.

darren_ 8y ago
Thanks for the update. I'll admit to not reading the guidelines closely until now, but since they don't actually outline a list of websites considered 'non-original', this does essentially mean that HN can apparently shift comments you make for any arbitrary URL to another, and you have no way to know beforehand. Sorry, I don't mean to sound irritable, but attaching my comments to an article I didn't intend is way too close to putting words in my mouth.
- Izkata 8y ago
  A list of sites doesn't make a whole lot of sense IMO because they regularly borrow reports from each other, and the list will always be incomplete. The key in this case was this line, which links to the Times article: > In comments reported on Saturday by The Times of London, Poulson cited as an example of the anti-leak culture an an unnamed senior engineer taking the microphone at an all-hands meeting to yell “F— you leakers” at his colleagues.