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Selectively Ignoring Reset Packets From Your ISP

13 points by xirium 18y ago

pistoriusp 18y ago
In South Africa we are "capped," this means that you purchase a set amount of bandwidth per month, I've got 5GB per month account for which I pay $41 per month. Your connection is reset every 24 hours to ensure that you do not go over your limit. From this do you think it would be possible to ignore the reset and continue to remain on the "uncapped" account?
- cstejerean 18y ago
  The "reset" you mention is not the kind of reset this article talks about. This article talks about ignoring RST packets (which are used by some ISPs to selectively terminate TCP connections). You can't really ignore the fact that your ISP disconnects your DSL line every 24 hours.
  - pistoriusp 18y ago
    Thanks for clearing that up for me.
smanek 18y ago
Why reward bad behavior? If your ISP is breaking your internet access you should switch ISPs. Pay a little bit more for a better provider, and tell others to do the same. As soon as we stop standing for this bullsh*t, ISPs will have to adapt or die. But, as long as we keep paying them, they will continue to try and pull this stuff on us. And pistoriusp: probably not. It is extremely unlikely that your ISP enforces its bandwidth limit per day. What do you mean by "Your connection is reset every 24 hours"? That's a bit ambiguous ...
- pistoriusp 18y ago
  We have 1 national supplier for fixed line internet access in South Africa, it's a 39% government owned Monopoly called Telkom. Although things are getting better this is our only option for now. This is from their website: "Does DSL give me a fixed IP address?" "No, at each login a new dynamic IP address will be assigned to you. Your DSL connection will be reset 24 hours after the last login and a 60 min idle timeout has been implemented." And the way that they implement uncapped/ capped connection is by separating them in to IP address blocks. So your DSL connection is forcefully disconnected every 24 hours, when you reconnect you get a new IP address and dependent on your usage limit you'll be capped or uncapped. (When you're capped you don't receive any data). I hope that helps to clear up your statement about our bandwidth limits not been enforced daily. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telkom_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telkom_(South_Africa)
- silencio 18y ago
  I reallly, really wish that were feasible and that simple. But it's not. Where I live (quiet little residential nook in Los Angeles), I have the choice of AT&T DSL maxing out at 1500kbps/256? for like $50/month, Time Warner cable 10mbit/1mbit for $45/month and..well...speakeasy offers DSL at speeds close to what TWC offers for um, something like $180/month. And given all the stuff I do, dialup is not really feasible. I could go with a wireless provider, but they're not that different from AT&T or TWC. $45. $180. That is not "a little bit more". That difference of $135 is enough to buy groceries for a week for the three of us living together here. Sure we could suck it up and get ripped off by that much more for another ISPs services, but $135 is also money for gas, fun dinners, nights out, just short of a share of Apple, some games... $135 a month over one year ends up being enough to buy a nice little MacBook Air..or upgrading the hardware I have now...you get the idea. As much as I'd like to tell TWC to suck it, like I did with AT&T when my DSL disconnected for the hundredth time in the past year and I switched to TWC for the savings and speeds, I can't because nobody else offers speeds like it at a more reasonable price. Hell, I am still complaining about only getting 10/1 for $45/month. But I should consider myself lucky, because some of my friends don't even have a choice and are stuck with one ISP that'll provide service in their area. So I wish people would stop with the whole "switch to another ISP" argument, because everyone wants to but they can't. In the US they are ALL just as bad as each other, and the only ones that aren't are either unavailable or extremely expensive.

13 points by xirium 18y ago

In South Africa we are "capped," this means that you purchase a set amount of bandwidth per month, I've got 5GB per month account for which I pay $41 per month. Your connection is reset every 24 hours to ensure that you do not go over your limit. From this do you think it would be possible to ignore the reset and continue to remain on the "uncapped" account?

cstejerean 18y ago
The "reset" you mention is not the kind of reset this article talks about. This article talks about ignoring RST packets (which are used by some ISPs to selectively terminate TCP connections). You can't really ignore the fact that your ISP disconnects your DSL line every 24 hours.
- pistoriusp 18y ago
  Thanks for clearing that up for me.

smanek 18y ago

Why reward bad behavior? If your ISP is breaking your internet access you should switch ISPs. Pay a little bit more for a better provider, and tell others to do the same. As soon as we stop standing for this bullsh*t, ISPs will have to adapt or die. But, as long as we keep paying them, they will continue to try and pull this stuff on us. And pistoriusp: probably not. It is extremely unlikely that your ISP enforces its bandwidth limit per day. What do you mean by "Your connection is reset every 24 hours"? That's a bit ambiguous ...

pistoriusp 18y ago
We have 1 national supplier for fixed line internet access in South Africa, it's a 39% government owned Monopoly called Telkom. Although things are getting better this is our only option for now. This is from their website: "Does DSL give me a fixed IP address?" "No, at each login a new dynamic IP address will be assigned to you. Your DSL connection will be reset 24 hours after the last login and a 60 min idle timeout has been implemented." And the way that they implement uncapped/ capped connection is by separating them in to IP address blocks. So your DSL connection is forcefully disconnected every 24 hours, when you reconnect you get a new IP address and dependent on your usage limit you'll be capped or uncapped. (When you're capped you don't receive any data). I hope that helps to clear up your statement about our bandwidth limits not been enforced daily. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telkom_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telkom_(South_Africa)
silencio 18y ago
I reallly, really wish that were feasible and that simple. But it's not. Where I live (quiet little residential nook in Los Angeles), I have the choice of AT&T DSL maxing out at 1500kbps/256? for like $50/month, Time Warner cable 10mbit/1mbit for $45/month and..well...speakeasy offers DSL at speeds close to what TWC offers for um, something like $180/month. And given all the stuff I do, dialup is not really feasible. I could go with a wireless provider, but they're not that different from AT&T or TWC. $45. $180. That is not "a little bit more". That difference of $135 is enough to buy groceries for a week for the three of us living together here. Sure we could suck it up and get ripped off by that much more for another ISPs services, but $135 is also money for gas, fun dinners, nights out, just short of a share of Apple, some games... $135 a month over one year ends up being enough to buy a nice little MacBook Air..or upgrading the hardware I have now...you get the idea. As much as I'd like to tell TWC to suck it, like I did with AT&T when my DSL disconnected for the hundredth time in the past year and I switched to TWC for the savings and speeds, I can't because nobody else offers speeds like it at a more reasonable price. Hell, I am still complaining about only getting 10/1 for $45/month. But I should consider myself lucky, because some of my friends don't even have a choice and are stuck with one ISP that'll provide service in their area. So I wish people would stop with the whole "switch to another ISP" argument, because everyone wants to but they can't. In the US they are ALL just as bad as each other, and the only ones that aren't are either unavailable or extremely expensive.