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The constant railing against this vague concept of "the establishment" doesn't really help progress the discussion to limit the influence of the establishment e
by TheCowboy 8y ago
The constant railing against this vague concept of "the establishment" doesn't really help progress the discussion to limit the influence of the establishment either. It's essentially a strawman. I can't argue about the establishment because it means something different to everyone and varies depending on the circumstances.
I'd find it ridiculous to argue that Bernie's influence doesn't represent one part of the political establishment these days. Bernie has been a member of congress for how long now? He also ran a relatively successful campaign for the Democratic nomination and gained a lot more influence as a result.
- vanderZwan 8y ago> I'd find it ridiculous to argue that Bernie's influence doesn't represent one part of the political establishment these days Emphasis "one part", and definitely not the national part of the democratic party with the top-down power to force things through. You have to think about, for the lack of a better term, the meta-politics here. And the irony is that the rest of the Democrats themselves did not see how they only disenfranchised a large chunk of their own voter base by rejecting what he had to say.
- TheCowboy 8y agoThat's the thing about having such a large party though, it isn't just Establishment plus Bernie parts. There are a lot of overlapping parts consisting of many people who have legitimate interests and are willing to help.