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Having recently been in the market, to choose between these two, I don't believe that the Jaguar is clear-cut the better car. Disclosure, I chose the Tesla Mode
by pwagland 8y ago
Having recently been in the market, to choose between these two, I don't believe that the Jaguar is clear-cut the better car. Disclosure, I chose the Tesla Model S!
The Jaguar does have advantages. The Matrix headlamps are awesome, it has a heads up display, the interior _is_ nicer, and IMO, it looks like the ant's pants!
However, the Tesla is faster (at least the Model S), and the P100D of either the X or S blows it out of the water. The Model S has a longer range, more space in the back, both for passengers and luggage. The X has _even more_ space, and the Tesla has a nicer screen, with better software. The adaptive cruise, and lane keeping features also work better IMO.
However the three big winning points for the Tesla:
1. Charge time: The Tesla can just charge faster, and it uses a lot less energy per km (or mile), so you end up needing to charge it less often, and when you do charge it, it can charge faster.
2. OTA software and map updates. This is just an awesome feature, particularly the map updates! They are just pushed to your car, no need to get it serviced to get the new maps, which also means that your maps tend to be more up to date.
3. This one is probably temporary, but still important for now: The Charging Network. The Tesla superchargers are in a lot more places than CCS-2 100kW chargers, which makes the Tesla more convenient for longer road trips.
If you _never_ do long trips, then 1 and 3 won't make any difference to you, since they both have enough energy for most people for day to day running, particularly if you have a charging pole at your work and/or home.
So, as I said, it's not clear cut which is better, since different needs could tip the above scales different ways. Which is just great IMO, since real competition is the only way forward.
- StavrosK 8y agoAre all these chargers compatible? I hope we don't end up with a mobile phone situation, where you needed 5 chargers for 5 phones. I guess independent charging stations can have support for every car interface, but that still feels like a waste compared to a universal interface.
- pwagland 8y agoNope. There are four standards, although only three per market. And, in essence, there are two surviving standards per market. 1. Tesla US connector 2. Tesla Everywhere else connectors (CCS with a mod to allow DC charging over it) 3. CHAdeMO (used to be the thing, but lost the war) 4. CCS-2 (European standard, what most new cars, except Tesla, support) The rumour is that the EU Model 3 _will_ have a CCS-2 port, which would be great news, as that means essentially one standard in Europe. The S/X though have an older port which will only work with Tesla SuperChargers, the hope is that there will be a CCS-2 adapter made available, but that is only a hope, not even a rumour. In the US, all Teslas have the "Tesla socket", and all/most other cars have CCS(-2). A few manufactures still make CHAdeMO cars, but, IMO, they _will_ stop soon, since the infrastructure just isn't there to support them, so people will also soon stop buying them.
- StavrosK 8y agoAh, this is very useful info, thanks. Hopefully one standard will emerge, but at least we don't have one standard per manufacturer.
- cr34p 8y agoThe EU Model 3 will have a CCS-2 port, not a rumour any more ;) https://electrek.co/2018/11/14/tesla-model-3-ccs-2-plug-europe-adapter-model-s-model-x/ https://electrek.co/2018/11/14/tesla-model-3-ccs-2-plug-euro...
- ricw 8y agoThe EU model 3 has officially been announced with a CCS2 port. Other than the US, it’s likely that this will be THE port that everyone will support. Hopefully we won’t have any bigger charging port wars going forward...
- rohit2412 8y agoI think you missed that chademo isn't dying anything soon in Japan. And China has a local standard of its own. Those two markets are sort of out of reach for everyone else
- audunw 8y ago> The rumour is that the EU Model 3 _will_ have a CCS-2 port, which would be great news, as that means essentially one standard in Europe. This isn't a rumour anymore btw, it's confirmed
- adim86 8y agoTesla offers other EV manufacturers the ability to be compatible with their superchargers... so far no takers