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That's a really good line in the sand, and relatively practical as well. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be put into the books with all the interests corp

That's a really good line in the sand, and relatively practical as well. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be put into the books with all the interests corporations would have in keeping it out.

DubiousPusher 8y ago
Really?! I don't think it is a good line in the sand. Because even though we can draw lines around how an AI might act like a human in a certain case, recognize you as a frequenter of a store, when we connect that AI to the rest of the computer capabilities out there it quickly becomes something a human couldn't do. A convencience store clerk might remember several dozen, even several hundered frequent customers but it tops out somewhere. And after some time the clerk will forget many of those who stop coming in. But an AI with a database for recollection suffers from neither of those issues. But you might say the recall has nothing at all to do with what the AI is basically doing. We have to look at this much more wholistically.
- phkahler 8y ago
  >> when we connect that AI to the rest of the computer capabilities out there it quickly becomes something a human couldn't do. Connecting the AI face recognizer to the cloud or any other system is exactly where the line needs to be.
  - crawfordcomeaux 8y ago
    Disagree. This is a technology that can be secretly or openly deployed in businesses for the sake of emotional exploitation via dynamic displays targeting specific emotional states. I'm against turning the world into anymore of an emotional hunting ground than it naturally is. http://eqradio.csail.mi.edu http://eqradio.csail.mi.edu
    - phkahler 8y ago
      You may have just convinced me that this technology needs to be banned outright.
      - crawfordcomeaux 8y ago
        If we rely on the law for protection, we're doomed. This calls for much harder and higher action: We need a framework for programming ourselves so as to be able to systematically protect ourselves at emotional, mental, and spiritual levels. Further, any system incentivizing such emotional exploitation needs to leave now. I'm looking at you, capitalism.
    - efreak 8y ago
      Dead link? I'm on mobile if that makes a difference.
      - crawfordcomeaux 8y ago
        Fixed link http://eqradio.csail.mit.edu/ http://eqradio.csail.mit.edu/

That's a really good line in the sand, and relatively practical as well. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be put into the books with all the interests corporations would have in keeping it out.

DubiousPusher 8y ago

Really?! I don't think it is a good line in the sand. Because even though we can draw lines around how an AI might act like a human in a certain case, recognize you as a frequenter of a store, when we connect that AI to the rest of the computer capabilities out there it quickly becomes something a human couldn't do. A convencience store clerk might remember several dozen, even several hundered frequent customers but it tops out somewhere. And after some time the clerk will forget many of those who stop coming in. But an AI with a database for recollection suffers from neither of those issues. But you might say the recall has nothing at all to do with what the AI is basically doing. We have to look at this much more wholistically.

phkahler 8y ago
>> when we connect that AI to the rest of the computer capabilities out there it quickly becomes something a human couldn't do. Connecting the AI face recognizer to the cloud or any other system is exactly where the line needs to be.
- crawfordcomeaux 8y ago
  Disagree. This is a technology that can be secretly or openly deployed in businesses for the sake of emotional exploitation via dynamic displays targeting specific emotional states. I'm against turning the world into anymore of an emotional hunting ground than it naturally is. http://eqradio.csail.mi.edu http://eqradio.csail.mi.edu
  - phkahler 8y ago
    You may have just convinced me that this technology needs to be banned outright.
    - crawfordcomeaux 8y ago
      If we rely on the law for protection, we're doomed. This calls for much harder and higher action: We need a framework for programming ourselves so as to be able to systematically protect ourselves at emotional, mental, and spiritual levels. Further, any system incentivizing such emotional exploitation needs to leave now. I'm looking at you, capitalism.
  - efreak 8y ago
    Dead link? I'm on mobile if that makes a difference.
    - crawfordcomeaux 8y ago
      Fixed link http://eqradio.csail.mit.edu/ http://eqradio.csail.mit.edu/