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anyone going to opt out and try to sue themselves? I'm totally peeved about what they did.

by davidj 16y ago

Niten 16y ago
I'm going to opt out because I object to these lawyers claiming they're acting on my behalf in suing Google without my consent. I understand that this is considered legally acceptable for class actions in the United States, but I don't think it is reasonable or ethical. You should need explicit authorization to claim to represent any competent adult. And for what it's worth, I never got my feathers too ruffled by the Buzz thing anyway. EDIT: And the notice document says you'll need to snail mail all of the following to our intrepid lawyers in order to opt out: "your full name, address, reason why you want out of the Settlement" -- best of all, a nebulous "proof that you used Gmail at some point after February 9, 2010" -- plus "your signature, and the date." What exactly will be accepted as proof? Convenient how they don't bother to tell us. I'm assuming they won't accept OAuth tokens...
- ars 16y ago
  When they say stuff like that they just want to you write that you used it. They way a lawyer uses the word "proof" is not remotely related to the way a scientist uses it.
  - Niten 16y ago
    I would hope you're right, except: 1. If all they're after is an assertion that you've used Gmail in that time frame... well, that's already implied by the fact that you've received a notification of the class action and are replying to it. 2. The notice is written colloquially, not in lawyer speak, and the audience is the general public, so it seems more reasonable to take "proof" to mean "evidence" here.
- mey 16y ago
  What is a larger privacy violation, Google Buzz or opting out of the class action lawsuit?
- jamesaguilar 16y ago
  Wouldn't an email sent from your gmail on that date be sufficient? The sent mail box could be faked but I think it would be sufficient evidence for this purpose.

anyone going to opt out and try to sue themselves? I'm totally peeved about what they did.

by davidj 16y ago

anyone going to opt out and try to sue themselves? I'm totally peeved about what they did.

Niten 16y ago

I'm going to opt out because I object to these lawyers claiming they're acting on my behalf in suing Google without my consent. I understand that this is considered legally acceptable for class actions in the United States, but I don't think it is reasonable or ethical. You should need explicit authorization to claim to represent any competent adult. And for what it's worth, I never got my feathers too ruffled by the Buzz thing anyway. EDIT: And the notice document says you'll need to snail mail all of the following to our intrepid lawyers in order to opt out: "your full name, address, reason why you want out of the Settlement" -- best of all, a nebulous "proof that you used Gmail at some point after February 9, 2010" -- plus "your signature, and the date." What exactly will be accepted as proof? Convenient how they don't bother to tell us. I'm assuming they won't accept OAuth tokens...

ars 16y ago
When they say stuff like that they just want to you write that you used it. They way a lawyer uses the word "proof" is not remotely related to the way a scientist uses it.
- Niten 16y ago
  I would hope you're right, except: 1. If all they're after is an assertion that you've used Gmail in that time frame... well, that's already implied by the fact that you've received a notification of the class action and are replying to it. 2. The notice is written colloquially, not in lawyer speak, and the audience is the general public, so it seems more reasonable to take "proof" to mean "evidence" here.
mey 16y ago
What is a larger privacy violation, Google Buzz or opting out of the class action lawsuit?
jamesaguilar 16y ago
Wouldn't an email sent from your gmail on that date be sufficient? The sent mail box could be faked but I think it would be sufficient evidence for this purpose.